Current Derby Field

[NTamm1215]

1. Dubai- A legitimate question mark
2. No Frankie- A blessing in a dirt race
3. Lost to Regal Ransom (which isn't a huge negative to me)- A non-issue given the track
4. At least five American horses that look better- A debatable opinion
5. Beaten no one- A dangerous argument but who has I Want Revenge beaten?

NT

[CSC]

Last year if I am remembering correctly there were some big races in Europe on Derby day, so I wouldn't look at Frankie not being here as much as if he were riding here.

[philcski]

The more I look at the Dubai entrants the more I like them given the prices they figure to be.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by philcski

The more I look at the Dubai entrants the more I like them given the prices they figure to be.

Phil, I have too many bad memories of Johannesburg to bet the Euro's in this type of race, if it were turf I would consider. It's hard to know what to make of them, I guess at a price you can't go wrong.

[ninetoone]

Whoever Dominguez ends up on, I'll cover with a win bet. I know it's crazy, but I gotta do it. Then I can make my regular bets and relax.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

Phil, I have too many bad memories of Johannesburg to bet the Euro's in this type of race, if it were turf I would consider. It's hard to know what to make of them, I guess at a price you can't go wrong.

Neither Desert Party or Regal Ransom have started on turf? And they're not Euros?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Neither Desert Party or Regal Ransom have started on turf? And they're not Euros?

Travis, what I mean't to say is I give extra credence when European based horses come over for turf races, not dirt races. You are correct they are American horses, we shouldn't refer to them as European horses just because they were bought by Godolphin.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by CSC

Last year if I am remembering correctly there were some big races in Europe on Derby day, so I wouldn't look at Frankie not being here as much as if he were riding here.

The 2000 Guineas always seems to be on the same day as the Derby so Frankie usually stays in Newmarket...

I like Desert Party too, even more so if Regal Ransom takes his place in the field..

I just hope he works a bit better than he did in the leadup to the UAE Derby when he seemed to be very quiet / not himself..

[CSC]

Originally Posted by brockguy

The 2000 Guineas always seems to be on the same day as the Derby so Frankie usually stays in Newmarket...

I like Desert Party too, even more so if Regal Ransom takes his place in the field..

I just hope he works a bit better than he did in the leadup to the UAE Derby when he seemed to be very quiet / not himself..

I didn't think he could possibly lose DWC night, like you I like him much more than Regal Ransom if I had to choose between the two.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

1. Dubai- A legitimate question mark
2. No Frankie- A blessing in a dirt race
3. Lost to Regal Ransom (which isn't a huge negative to me)- A non-issue given the track
4. At least five American horses that look better- A debatable opinion
5. Beaten no one- A dangerous argument but who has I Want Revenge beaten?

NT

Desert Party is by far their best proposition so far, and with Regal Ransom now going, and likely serving as a pace setup, he becomes more appealing.

His UAE Derby was a really strong effort. And he has 2-year-old form. One of my concerns though is the fact many wise-guy 'cappers are talking him up a bit, which is tricky, because he might get more action than we think.