Current Derby Field

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I remember in 2001 having a few hundred dollars on the "over" in a prop bet that was 17.5 for the number of horses to start in that years Derby.

Even though that year was loaded with so many scary good looking horses about seven or so weeks out - I thought it was a total cinch enough bums would be sacraficed up to make it a full field of 20 .. and I basically thought I had a steal.

The race ended up only going with 17 .... D. Wayne Lukas had two allowance horses that year that were both nominated to the Kentucky Derby and had a pulse. He didn't enter either one.

That was just about the most maddening prop bet I've ever lost.

[CSC]

I find it very interesting that little is being said about Friesan Fire so far.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

What is there to say?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

What is there to say?

If this forum is any indication by the lack of talk surrounding him, he may be a forgotten horse Derby day, I'm not counting on it, but if I had the gumption I would track it on a graph/chart. No not really I hate charts...even the FM charts.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Maybe I need some mystery goggles or something, but I just don't see why Desert Party isn't considered one of the top choices this year.

I'm sticking with him.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

Maybe I need some mystery goggles or something, but I just don't see why Desert Party isn't considered one of the top choices this year.

I'm sticking with him.

1. Dubai
2. No Frankie
3. Lost to Regal Ransom (which isn't a huge negative to me)
4. At least five American horses that look better
5. Beaten no one

[NTamm1215]

1. Dubai- A legitimate question mark
2. No Frankie- A blessing in a dirt race
3. Lost to Regal Ransom (which isn't a huge negative to me)- A non-issue given the track
4. At least five American horses that look better- A debatable opinion
5. Beaten no one- A dangerous argument but who has I Want Revenge beaten?

NT

[Thunder Gulch]

I've bought into the Dubai hype more than once and never was in contention in the Derby that I can remember. It may have been different if Street Cry made it, but he didn't.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by justindew

1. Dubai
2. No Frankie
3. Lost to Regal Ransom (which isn't a huge negative to me)
4. At least five American horses that look better
5. Beaten no one

1. Understood
2. Doesn't matter
3. Closed better than anyone into the bias (Well Armed sucks)
4. Debatable
5. BS... Who have any of them beaten? They are a bunch of unproven three-year-olds. The "Who Did He Beat" defense has to come after a horse has had a few campaigns.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

I find it very interesting that little is being said about Friesan Fire so far.

My ? mark with him is how much were his victories a product of good trips and suspect competition. And when you toss the layoff and lack of an 8.5f prep, it becomes more difficult to use him when there are more likeable, and valued-filled, options available.