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Old 04-20-2009, 09:47 AM
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LOL. News outlet slanting is the original problem. Reno didn't say the italicized part!

The report on domestic terrorism actually says (if one would read it themselves) that right-wing groups are becoming more active, and that returning vets that do not assimilate well back into society could be targeted by these domestic terrorist groups for recruitment due to their knowledge and skills.

Is the above calling returning vets terrorists? Obviously not.

But in the blatherings of a very few right-wing editorial ultra-cons lacking reading comprehension, they read that differently, and they started the silly "the report calls our vets terrorists!" nonsense.

The actual content also apparently doesn't matter to the lazier media outlets that picked up those ultra-con accusations, then keep repeating them. Rather than reading the report themselves and presenting what it says factually. That would be so ... boring, to present the truth.

Maybe someone should give these anti-American folks, those that lie about our government, and repeatedly attack and disrepect our government and our President, an "American spanking"!
Turns out I could have saved myself some typing
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:06 AM
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Turns out I could have saved myself some typing
Naw, your typing kept me from thinking I was in a weird Republican Alice In Wonderland
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:08 AM
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier this year launched a nationwide operation targeting white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," including a focus on veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, according to memos sent from bureau headquarters to field offices.

Nothing like a warm welcome to returning troops.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:17 AM
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier this year launched a nationwide operation targeting white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," including a focus on veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, according to memos sent from bureau headquarters to field offices.

Nothing like a warm welcome to returning troops.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html
Ok, I got it.

You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.

Obviously, not a single one of your quotes has come from the report itself, which says plenty. The report is a big picture item, and you're taking opinions of single sentences which completely contradict the actual purpose of the report so you can do this veterans high horse routine.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:33 AM
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Ok, I got it.

You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.

Obviously, not a single one of your quotes has come from the report itself, which says plenty. The report is a big picture item, and you're taking opinions of single sentences which completely contradict the actual purpose of the report so you can do this veterans high horse routine.
No to the contrary, 'the report' is just one example of the 'loathing of the military' policy started by Clinton. Al Gore tried to throw out absentee ballots cast by active, deployed military personal and now Obama and Co are actually investigating them.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:36 AM
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No to the contrary, 'the report' is just one example of the 'loathing of the military' policy started by Clinton. Al Gore tried to throw out absentee ballots cast by active, deployed military personal and now Obama and Co are actually investigating them.
Ok, so you're saying you obviously haven't read the report.

Got it.

There is no other way one could be so incredibly intellectually dishonest about this.

Unless, of course, your name was Michelle Malkin...and then at least you'd be getting paid for doing so.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:21 AM
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some more mindless blather in the politics section, no wonder i love sports and horse racing and laugh at politics and religion. God loves america, so does the easter bunny and santa clause. and if we sing some stupid song, wave a flag and wear a pin he blesses us! wow, that makes perfect sense, should i put out cookies and milk too. then this clown takes advantage of this nonsense when hes in the stadium and sh!tfaced. God must be impressed with all of this brain power....lol. maybe if some of you guys sing God bless america you'll cash more tickets...try that one...lol
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:26 AM
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some more mindless blather in the politics section, no wonder i love sports and horse racing and laugh at politics and religion. God loves america, so does the easter bunny and santa clause. and if we sing some stupid song, wave a flag and wear a pin he blesses us! wow, that makes perfect sense, should i put out cookies and milk too. then this clown takes advantage of this nonsense when hes in the stadium and sh!tfaced. God must be impressed with all of this brain power....lol. maybe if some of you guys sing God bless america you'll cash more tickets...try that one...lol

Insightful, strange you capitilized God and not America?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:23 AM
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Ok, so you're saying you obviously haven't read the report.

Got it.

There is no other way one could be so incredibly intellectually dishonest about this.

Unless, of course, your name was Michelle Malkin...and then at least you'd be getting paid for doing so.
ok let me quote from the report

"DHS/I&A assesses that the combination of environmental factors that echo
the 1990s, including heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms restrictions and returning military veterans, as well as several new trends, including an uncertain economy and a perceived rising influence of other countries, may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements. To the extent that these factors persist, rightwing extremism is likely to grow in strength."

"After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military
veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing
extremist groups."

Just a wee bit of stereotyping?

At least Obama is consistent with the Clinton policy of 'loathing the military' and showed it when snubbing Medal of Honor recipients inauguration night.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:55 AM
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ok let me quote from the report

"DHS/I&A assesses that the combination of environmental factors that echo
the 1990s, including heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms restrictions and returning military veterans, as well as several new trends, including an uncertain economy and a perceived rising influence of other countries, may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements. To the extent that these factors persist, rightwing extremism is likely to grow in strength."

"After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military
veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing
extremist groups."

Just a wee bit of stereotyping?

At least Obama is consistent with the Clinton policy of 'loathing the military' and showed it when snubbing Medal of Honor recipients inauguration night.
Strange that those who are so "offended" by the realistic report are the same ones who generally don't have any problem at all with racial profiling. Profiling Muslims? Awesome. Profiling trouble-making extremist right-wing groups and learning what types of people they're going to go after and keeping an eye on them to minimize threat potential? Terrible. Offensive. EGAD!

Hell, Malkin (who's leading the charge on being so outraged by this) has written an entire freaking book dedicated to explaining why internment camps were awesome.

This is typical, just like spending complaints. Eight years of out of control spending under Bush? Suh-WEEEEET! Two months of out of control spending to try to stimulate an economy under Obama? Terrible. Offensive. EGAD! TEABAG NOW!

Selective, mostly manufactured, outrage would be hilarious if it weren't so goddamn annoying.

So your message basicaly boils down to it's good when we do it, bad when you do. Got it loud and clear, at least it's simple and concise.

Weak sauce Dell.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:25 AM
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Unless, of course, your name was Michelle Malkin...and then at least you'd be getting paid for doing so.
Ha - I have a challenge for you: explain Rep. Michele Bachmann
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You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.
When the conclusion doesn't fit, check the premise.
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