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Old 04-14-2009, 08:53 PM
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Off the Derby trail per Privman article on DRF.com due to "a stifle problem that plagued him as a 2-year-old flare anew, according to trainer Ken McPeek."
Is this a by-product of running back so soon from FLA? Too bad either way.

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Old 04-15-2009, 07:50 AM
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AS OF 4/15/09:

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981 Lexington Probable
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Hold Me Back $438,000
12 West Side Bernie $385,160
13 Chocolate Candy $370,000
14 Win Willy $230,000
15 Giant Oak $169,256
16 Dunkirk $150,000
17 Charitable Man $150,000
18 Flying Private $124,000
19 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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20* Summer Bird $100,000
21 Join in the Dance $90,000
22 Flying Pegasus $90,000
23 Take the Points $85,000

24 Atomic Rain $77,500
25 Just A Coincidence $75,000
26 Imperial Council $72,500
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:53 AM
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AS OF 4/15/09:

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981 Lexington Probable
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Hold Me Back $438,000
12 West Side Bernie $385,160
13 Chocolate Candy $370,000
14 Win Willy $230,000
15 Giant Oak $169,256
16 Dunkirk $150,000
17 Charitable Man $150,000
18 Flying Private $124,000
19 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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20* Summer Bird $100,000
21 Join in the Dance $90,000
22 Flying Pegasus $90,000
23 Take the Points $85,000

24 Atomic Rain $77,500
25 Just A Coincidence $75,000
26 Imperial Council $72,500


as deep as we thought this field was gonna be, they're dropping like flies now.. Terrain out, Giant Oak decsion coming monday. Hell, seeing imperial council get in (via earnings) is not totally out of the question


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Old 04-15-2009, 08:01 AM
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as deep as we thought this field was gonna be, they're dropping like flies now.. Terrain out, Giant Oak decsion coming monday. Hell, seeing imperial council get in (via earnings) is not totally out of the question


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i doubt shug would run him tho.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:54 AM
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:19 AM
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I don't understand the decision to not run Terrain. The horse is nearly a lock for fifth place.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:21 AM
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I don't understand the decision to not run Terrain. The horse is nearly a lock for fifth place.
How many years are we chastising guys for running horses who have no chance? Al Stall is doing what he thinks is right for his horse and that's a good thing.

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Old 04-15-2009, 08:46 AM
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How many years are we chastising guys for running horses who have no chance? Al Stall is doing what he thinks is right for his horse and that's a good thing.

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:02 AM
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How many years are we chastising guys for running horses who have no chance? Al Stall is doing what he thinks is right for his horse and that's a good thing.

NT
The gelding factor seems to be the key factor with him. Lots of other purses out there for 3-year olds, especially on synthetics, which Terrain seems to thrive on.

As far as the other horses with a shot getting in, what happened to Flying Pegasus after the LA Derby? Summer Bird isn't nominated I believe, although I would assume Pletcher and Zito would both jump at the opportunity to send "Take the Points" and "Just a Coincidence".

And as much as Imperial Council may have had an excuse in the Wood with his pre-race meltdown, I don't see Shug sending him to Churchill (although he did work at Belmont yesterday, so he must have come out of the race fine).
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AS OF 4/15/09:

1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981 Lexington
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Musket Man $485,000

11 Hold Me Back $438,000
12 West Side Bernie $385,160
13 Chocolate Candy $370,000
14 Win Willy $230,000
15 Giant Oak $169,256
16 Dunkirk $150,000
17 Mine That Bird
18 Flying Private $124,000
19 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
20 Summer Bird $100,000
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21 Join in the Dance $90,000
22 Flying Pegasus $90,000
23 Take the Points $85,000

24 Atomic Rain $77,500
25 Just A Coincidence $75,000
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:52 PM
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Ah Lukas. I enjoyed Steve Haskin's remembrances on his trip to the Derby with Charismatic. http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...under?id=50129

Love him or hate him, he's a pretty fun character to have on the track for the Triple Crown. I can't help but get nostalgic. As long as I've followed racing, Lukas has been in it.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:12 AM
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How many years are we chastising guys for running horses who have no chance? Al Stall is doing what he thinks is right for his horse and that's a good thing.

NT
Excellent point. One of the best Derby's in the last 15 years was the 1997 Derby. It was a field of 13 and it was a fabulous race.

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it's look less and less likely there will be 20 horses in the field this year.
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it's look less and less likely there will be 20 horses in the field this year.
agreed - i say 16 go
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:07 AM
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well looks like giant oak is going to pass,
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:09 AM
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well looks like giant oak is going to pass,
Source? Hadn't seen that yet.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:14 AM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/103104.html


Giant Oak, the second-place finisher in the Illinois Derby, will be kept out of the May 2 Kentucky Derby and will be pointed to a campaign on turf, trainer Chris Block said Monday.

"Physically, he's fine, but we don't think he's seasoned enough for a race like the Derby," Block said from Chicago, where he is based. "We're going to go back to the grass with him."

Block said the next likely start for Giant Oak would be the Arlington Classic at Arlington Park on May 23.
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