Musket Man part 2

[slotdirt]

I say again, the day a Yonaguska colt wins the Derby is the day American breeders should pack their bags and go home.

[gales0678]

if you believe in the #'s he is too slow , but the numbers have been wrong before and they can be again

that being said he continues to grow and get bigger and faster

derek is simply amazed with each step forward day by day , week by week

i will keep you guys posted as the derby draws near as to how the connections feel as i have a pretty good link into the barn

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by gales0678

if you believe in the #'s he is too slow , but the numbers have been wrong before and they can be again

Im giving him extra points for style. If this was a mile and an eight at Belmont in a 6 horse field with POTN, FF, IWR ect ect I wouldnt give him a shot. But this is the Derby, 20 horse field, anything can happen. If he's within 5-10 of the lead down the backside in the derby I feel he has a good shot.

[gales0678]

my guess is he will be a nice price come derby day , most lilkely higher than his pool 3 odds when all the so called experts like beyer , grennberg , etc etc basically probably tell you to throw him out

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by gales0678

my guess is he will be a nice price come derby day , most lilkely higher than his pool 3 odds when all the so called experts like beyer , grennberg , etc etc basically probably tell you to throw him out

25-1 in the third pool, if I can get higher than that in the Derby I would be extremely happy. Def. gonna wheel him back and forth in the exacta and use him alot in other exotics.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by kgar311

25-1 in the third pool, if I can get higher than that in the Derby I would be extremely happy. Def. gonna wheel him back and forth in the exacta and use him alot in other exotics.

tell me why , he only ran a 98 beyer , how much more can he move up on derby day?

brian you too - tell me what you saw that makes you think differently

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by gales0678

tell me why , he only ran a 98 beyer , how much more can he move up on derby day?

brian you too - tell me what you saw that makes you think differently

I was just impressed. I know that he's now handled more than one quirky surface, so you know he can carry his game with him. The way he finished, coming home in :12.2 makes me think that the extra furlong isn't going to be his undoing either.

I'm not saying he's my favorite horse heading into the Derby, but he's likely one I now wouldn't leave out on multi-race wagers. It's pretty tough to fault a horse who does so little wrong.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by gales0678

tell me why , he only ran a 98 beyer , how much more can he move up on derby day?

brian you too - tell me what you saw that makes you think differently

Well first of all they werent tearing it up on the front end 3/4s was in 13 and change and he still ended up sub 150 for the 1 1/8. Final 3f in 36.

I also dont think he had the best trip. Down the backside he wasnt clear on the outside, he was between horses with all type of dirt being kicked in his face. And with the slow pace in front of him it took Coa about 3 pumps and he had the leaders collared 3 wide at the head of the stretch. No other horse made a move like that in the race.

And finally if you watch the horse through the stretch I couldnt help but think if he was motoring like that in the stretch of the Derby aint nobody catching this horse.

[sumitas]

As an aside, The Pamplemousse (Kafwain) is bred on a similar cross as Musket Man . Both mares are Mr Prospector line and the 2 sires are sons of Cherokee Run .

[santana]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I say again, the day a Yonaguska colt wins the Derby is the day American breeders should pack their bags and go home.

Well said.........