Looking For A Compelling Reason to Pick Derby Winner

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i've met a lot of women at the track. in the last year i've gotten laid 15 times after meeting someone at the track and only failed to bed 2 i had any interest in. after last years santa anita derby, i did a pair of 22 year old twins. not bad for a guy that turns 52 next month. but anyway, i didn't come on here to parade my incredible sexual prowess.

Deities have an unfair advantage.

--Dunbar

[packerbacker7964]

Who'll ride IWR in the Derby? If J.R. is not riding Quality Road could he ride IWR? I hope not because J.R. hasn't done very well in past Derby rides.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Who'll ride IWR in the Derby? If J.R. is not riding Quality Road could he ride IWR? I hope not because J.R. hasn't done very well in past Derby rides.

Why would JR ride IWR and not Talamo?

[packerbacker7964]

Best rider available maybe? I don't know just saying some trainers use different riders.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Best rider available maybe? I don't know just saying some trainers use different riders.

I think Talamo is young, but can ride just as good as anyone out there right now imo. I think he did a very nice job on Revenge staying patient and not getting worried and rushing him up to soon, I see no reason why they won't stick with the kid.

[ninetoone]

Barring injury, there is zero chance they switch jockeys at this point.

[ateamstupid]

I agree, I know that every time I see a horse break slow, I write him off forever. Even if he hasn't had any semblance of a gate problem before.

I've picked every Derby winner since World War II. Not bad for a bullshitter.

And Talamo is riding IWR.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Who'll ride IWR in the Derby? If J.R. is not riding Quality Road could he ride IWR? I hope not because J.R. hasn't done very well in past Derby rides.

Just out of curiousity, what horse did J.R. ride in the Derby that should of won but didn't because of his ride? Why would he be any less of a rider in a Derby than any other race?

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by pointman

Just out of curiousity, what horse did J.R. ride in the Derby that should of won but didn't because of his ride? Why would he be any less of a rider in a Derby than any other race?

Built for Pleasure would have won by open lengths with someone else aboard. Exhibit #1:

BUILT FOR PLEASURE, well out in the track while between horses, raced forwardly into the backstretch but was finished before reaching the far turn...would have certainly destroyed Grindstone with a different jockey aboard.

Case closed.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Built for Pleasure would have won by open lengths with someone else aboard. Exhibit #1:

BUILT FOR PLEASURE, well out in the track while between horses, raced forwardly into the backstretch but was finished before reaching the far turn...would have certainly destroyed Grindstone with a different jockey aboard.

Case closed.

Case closed? First of all, I did not attack the poster, I asked a simple question because I could not recall JV riding a sure winner in the Derby out of a win, but never suggested that the poster was incorrecdt. I have never stated that I know everything about this game and in fact have stated many times I am just learning at this game. I cannot say that I have been following the game long enough to recall that particular ride and that is for others with more expertise to evaluate.

However, are you really suggesting that JV is not worthy of riding a top contender? Are you suggesting that you shouldn't bet a horse that you believe can win the Derby solely because JV is named to ride?

Even if he has blown a ride in the Derby, he is still one of the more capable riders out there and I know if I owned a contender I would be very happy to have JV ride my horse.

Please enlighten me as to why JV reduces any horses chances of winning a Kentucky Derby.

[gales0678]

i think if Pat Day hadn't won on Lil E Tee he would have gone done as the biggest disappointment in derby history as a jock

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by pointman

Case closed? First of all, I did not attack the poster, I asked a simple question because I could not recall JV riding a sure winner in the Derby out of a win, but never suggested that the poster was incorrecdt. I have never stated that I know everything about this game and in fact have stated many times I am just learning at this game. I cannot say that I have been following the game long enough to recall that particular ride and that is for others with more expertise to evaluate.

However, are you really suggesting that JV is not worthy of riding a top contender? Are you suggesting that you shouldn't bet a horse that you believe can win the Derby solely because JV is named to ride?

Even if he has blown a ride in the Derby, he is still one of the more capable riders out there and I know if I owned a contender I would be very happy to have JV ride my horse.

Please enlighten me as to why JV reduces any horses chances of winning a Kentucky Derby.

It was a joke.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

It was a joke.

LOL, Sorry! It was beyond my experience and right over my head, as I said I did not see the race and couldn't evaluate it either way. Even though I am no expert, I just cannot agree that JV reduces a horses chances of winning a Derby.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

It was a joke.

You mean Built for Pleasure wasn't the best 3YO that year????

Come on.....he beat Unbridled Song in the Fountain of Youth ( at like 100:1 ).