Weekend Beyers (Revenge 103; Musket 98; POTN 96)

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I've been saying both things here and on PA. I think he would need some real bad luck by a few horses to win, but I think he has a real shot to hit the board in the Derby.

I don't know man. I'd be shocked with an ITM run by WSB in the derby, unless of course, the faves keep dropping.

[Kasept]

Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figure from last week's stakes races:

*Oaklawn (OP): It's a Bird (M. Wolfson/J. Leparoux) - 107

*Carter (Aqu): Kodiak Kowboy (J. Jones/J. Velazquez) - 104
*Wood Memorial (Aqu): I Want Revenge (J. Mullins/J. Talamo) - 103
*Potrero Grande (SA): Soul City Slew (J. Carava/M. Baze) - 102
*Skip Away (GP): Finallymadeit (J. Negrete/E. Nunez) - 101
*Fantasy (OP): Rachel Alexandra (H. Wiggins/C. Borel) - 101
*Apple Blossom (OP): Seventh Street (K. McLaughlin/R. Maragh) - 100

*Princess of Palms (TuP): Shesa Private I (B. Hone/J. Barton) - 99
*Bay Shore (Aqu): Capt. Candyman Can (I. Wilkes/J. Castellano) - 98
*Kinsman Turf Classic (Tam): Fearless Eagle (E. Plesa Jr./E. Trujillo) - 98
*Illinois Derby (Haw): Musket Man (D. Ryan/E. Coa) - 98
*Santana Mile (SA): Rail Trip (R. Ellis/J. Valdivia Jr.) - 98
*Primonetta (Lrl): Access Fee (L. Murray/L. Garcia), Cammy's Choice (E. Lehman/J. Pimental) - 96 (*dead-heat)
*Arcadia (SA): Dixie Chatter (R. Mandella/T. Baze) - 96
*Santa Anita Derby (SA): Pioneerof the Nile (B. Baffert/G. Gomez) - 96
*Providencia (SA): Acting Lady (D. O'Neill/V. Espinoza) - 95
*Excelsior (Aqu): Giant Moon (R. Schosberg/E. Prado) - 95
*Las Flores (SA): Sweet August Moon (B. Koriner/A. Gryder) - 94
*Hilton Garden Inn Sprint (Tam): On the Vineyard (L. Scace/W. Martinez) - 92
*Wildcat (TuP): Allegre (M. Chambers/J. Barton) - 91
*L and D Farm Turf Distaff (Tam): Quiet Meadow (C. Brown/E. Trujillo) - 91
*Ashland (Kee): Hooh Why (D. Dupuy/C. Lanerie) - 90

*Smart Coupons (Aqu): See More Spirit (J. Hertler/S. Morales) - 89
*Central Bank Transylvania (Kee): Stormalory (W. Mott/J. Leparoux) - 89
*Yerba Buena (GG): Restless Soul - GB (B. Cecil/C. Schvaneveldt) - 88
*OBS Sophomore (Tam): Bee Cee Cee (E. Plesa Jr./D. Centeno) - 87
*Dowd Mile (Fon): The Nutz (S. Hall/D. Leeds) - 86
*Dayton Andrews Dodge Sophomore Turf (Tam): Tamborim (W. Mott/D. Centeno) - 83

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Kasept

*Wood Memorial (Aqu): I Want Revenge (J. Mullins/J. Talamo) - 103

I originally was expecting that they might fudge the beyers upwards in this race, because I Want Revenge came in as a good horse, and didn't get to run to his final time potential because of the trip, and will be scored higher on the performance type of ratings.

You kind of had to score the beyer according to the place horse, and give IWR a couple pts higher than whatever the place horse should have got...

WSB = 101 ... It's debatable that they did [slide it up a few pts], but it certainly is not flagrant, if they did it's probably only 3 or 4 pts.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

I originally was expecting that they might fudge the beyers upwards in this race, because I Want Revenge came in as a good horse, and didn't get to run to his final time potential because of the trip, and will be scored higher on the performance type of ratings.

You kind of had to score the beyer according to the place horse, and give IWR a couple pts higher than whatever the place horse should have got...

WSB = 101 ... It's debatable that they did [slide it up a few pts], but it certainly is not flagrant, if they did it's probably only 3 or 4 pts.

Why would you have to slide it up depending on the place horse? It's based on the time, not the trip the horse has right?