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Old 04-06-2009, 12:21 PM
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And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:25 PM
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fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country
I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:27 PM
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I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:29 PM
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that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through
I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:30 PM
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I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

see above - he shouldn't be able to walk in the front door is my point
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:26 PM
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fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country
Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:28 PM
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Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.
he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:32 PM
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he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point
I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:41 PM
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I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.
agree with the right to check , but why not allow a NYRA gurad to search you and the groom before you go in ??

chuck you are a trainer how would you feel about this , how could it not help?
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:43 PM
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I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull duggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:45 PM
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I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull guggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .

fair point - guards and cameras would be my vote
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
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fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country
Should we really make anyone see Jeff Mullins naked against their will? Just send him to prison and at least then it'll be "consensual."

I don't think we should be so quick to assume IEAH won't publicly pitch a fit. They can of course write it off to being the other owner's right to decide the trainer but they won't miss an opportunity to cry 'I am shocked, shocked, to learn there is cheating going on in this establishment...'
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