Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...

[randallscott35]

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

somehow i think the only sign there is the one that points you to the Belt Pkwy

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

right below the no smoking sign?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

see above - he shouldn't be able to walk in the front door is my point

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.

he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

agree with the right to check , but why not allow a NYRA gurad to search you and the groom before you go in ??

chuck you are a trainer how would you feel about this , how could it not help?

[sumitas]

I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull duggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Should we really make anyone see Jeff Mullins naked against their will? Just send him to prison and at least then it'll be "consensual."

I don't think we should be so quick to assume IEAH won't publicly pitch a fit. They can of course write it off to being the other owner's right to decide the trainer but they won't miss an opportunity to cry 'I am shocked, shocked, to learn there is cheating going on in this establishment...'

[dellinger63]

NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

It makes sense... so there's no way it'll ever happen.