Talamo - Page 2

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 04-04-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Rode an overrated horse

Exactly

PPerfectfan · #2 04-05-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Rode an overrated horse

Could not have said it better myself!! REally people are shocked she got beat??

I am amazed!

JJP · #3 04-04-2009, 08:39 PM

Have you ever noticed when Durkin or another announcer proclaim, "so and so is trapped behind a wall of horses" that they often end up winning? These horses see the traffic in front of them and wait; they aren't being checked by the rider. Invariably, a hole does open up and then they accelerate.

johnny pinwheel · #4 04-05-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Wow. Smith's a choker? Tough crowd!

What did he do wrong?

its a common theme on these sites. a horse loses and its the jockeys fault (ESPECIALLY CHALK). forget about the horses talent or its training which is about 95% of the races result, its always the jockey! every week some big fav loses and its garaunteed there will be a thread blaming the ride. the guy (girl) weighs a hundred and something wet and the horse weighs half a ton but folks think these people are driving cars with steering wheels and gas pedals. forget the fact that things happen in a race that are unpredictable(the wood yesterday) or the horse just is not trained enough to do the right thing. but heres the most important factor, your chalk eating pic just was not good enough on the day of the race. its a game, sometimes you win, sometimes you don't. get on a horse and ride a race, come back and tell me how easy it was to win ! that takes alot more balls then coming on here and crying about the ride.

Danzig · #5 04-04-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank

Maybe they should put him on Stardom Bound instead of Mike"choke boy"Smith.

her last few starts have indicated the gap between her and her peers was closing quickly. today is an indication that gap has been shut. it's no surprise to me that she lost today. if anything, i'm surprised she made it to april without losing. it wasn't smiths fault, it's no one's fault. maybe she's precocious like her sire and dam?

blackthroatedwind · #6 04-04-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

her last few starts have indicated the gap between her and her peers was closing quickly. today is an indication that gap has been shut. it's no surprise to me that she lost today. if anything, i'm surprised she made it to april without losing. it wasn't smiths fault, it's no one's fault. maybe she's precocious like her sire and dam?

I wouldn't even put it that way. I don't think she was ever very good.

Danzig · #7 04-04-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I wouldn't even put it that way. I don't think she was ever very good.

i don't either. but she was good enough at the right time to win a big race, and get her original owner a nice chunk of money. precocity doesn't equal GOOD, i never thought she was what some made her out to be.

HaloWishingwell · #8 04-05-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank

Maybe they should put him on Stardom Bound instead of Mike"choke boy"Smith.

Huh? Chantal is that you?

HaloWishingwell · #9 04-05-2009, 12:47 PM

I'll give Talamo some credit for the ride but it sure helped he knew the horse was already Derby-bound. That had to be cemented to his mind before the gates opened. I'm not thrilled the way he ran up and got stuck behind that pack the way he did but the horse got it done.

eajinabi · #10 04-05-2009, 01:08 PM

Talamo is not producing the win percenatage as he did in his first year. He started to slide when he dumped his first agent at So. Cal. However, right now he is on probably the favorite going into the derby.

2Hot4TV · #11 04-07-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

Talamo is not producing the win percenatage as he did in his first year. He started to slide when he dumped his first agent at So. Cal. However, right now he is on probably the favorite going into the derby.

He lost his bug and that's when he started to not win as many races. Trainers are basicly whores and if a bug can ride they will give them the mounts, as far as his agent change costing him mounts,,,,,,,,well he made the right move by going with Scotty and time will tell.

MaTH716 · #12 04-05-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I'll give Talamo some credit for the ride but it sure helped he knew the horse was already Derby-bound. That had to be cemented to his mind before the gates opened. I'm not thrilled the way he ran up and got stuck behind that pack the way he did but the horse got it done.

I guess you would have perfered a sweeping 7 wide move on the turn, coming from dead last on a track that has favored speed.

HaloWishingwell · #13 04-05-2009, 04:15 PM

I would have preferred him not being so close to that pack

MaTH716 · #14 04-05-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I would have preferred him not being so close to that pack

Are you talking about when the horse got back in contention on the backstretch? Or are you talking about when he got bounced around in the stretch? It's not like he had the ideal break and was able to pick his position. I thought he did a great job putting the horse in a spot where he could win. I'm really not sure where else you think he should of had him.

The Indomitable DrugS · #15 04-05-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I guess you would have perfered a sweeping 7 wide move on the turn, coming from dead last on a track that has favored speed.

The track certainly did not favor speed yesterday imo.

MaTH716 · #16 04-05-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The track certainly did not favor speed yesterday imo.

I actually only saw the Wood and Carter yesterday (obviously those horses came from behind to win). But I glanced at the charts this morning and it looked like horses on/near the lead were winning. But I really didn't take a good look at times, except I saw the Giant Moon race was a crawl.

pick4 · #17 04-04-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

I have no idea why people blame him for the poor break.

Did you watch the start of the Excelsior?

chucklestheclown · #18 04-05-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pick4

Did you watch the start of the Excelsior?

Yes. It was hard to ignore.

SOREHOOF · #19 04-05-2009, 07:34 AM

I was shocked Hooh Why was 24:1. Only race I hit all day.Had that nice exacta too. I thought Talamo gave quite the gutsy heads up ride. Smith rode Stardom Bound the same way he always does, she just came up short.She wasn't going to beat Rachel in KY anyway but if you still like SB you might get better odds now.