Talamo

eajinabi · #1 04-04-2009, 07:24 PM

If anything Talamo shold be considered to ride for all IEAH mounts. Horse broke slow but the kid never rushed his horse an guided him throughout, shifted outside and never showed the stick. Very classy and patient ride by Talamo.

I have no idea why people blame him for the poor break.

mclem0822 · #2 04-04-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

If anything Talamo shold be considered to ride for all IEAH mounts. Horse broke slow but the kid never rushed his horse an guided him throughout, shifted outside and never showed the stick. Very classy and patient ride by Talamo.

I have no idea why people blame him for the poor break.

I may be nuts, but I agree with everything you've said. According to the post race interview, the 1 horse spooked IWR in some way just before the break.

ateamstupid · #3 04-04-2009, 07:55 PM

What the hell could he have done better after the break? He didn't panic, let the horse settle into stride and patiently waited for a hole to open. Yeah, he left a little to chance, but I prefer a jockey who trusts a good horse to put himself in position to win, over one who gets flustered and rushes a horse after a bad break or goes stupid wide to try to assure running room. Less is more on a horse like this.

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 04-04-2009, 08:05 PM

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but I prefer a jockey who trusts a good horse to put himself in position to win,

I prefer a jockey with a long record of good rides in pressure situations - you can have all the 19 yo's you want who made a big name for themselves by losing at double the takeout from over 300 dirt mounts at FG.

I guess if I didn't have some mix of $20 and $5 future book exactas at fixed odds with IWR over QR, IC, OF, WSB, field and Patena ... I wouldn't much care who rides him.

ateamstupid · #5 04-04-2009, 08:46 PM

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I prefer a jockey with a long record of good rides in pressure situations - you can have all the 19 yo's you want who made a big name for themselves by losing at double the takeout from over 300 dirt mounts at FG.

I guess if I didn't have some mix of $20 and $5 future book exactas at fixed odds with IWR over QR, IC, OF, WSB, field and Patena ... I wouldn't much care who rides him.

That's fine, but you made this about today's ride, and I don't see what he did wrong. To the contrary, I thought he showed poise that's rare when a jockey gets left at the gate, then into traffic. Maybe that's because the horse already had the earnings and he had nothing to lose, but it was a slick ride regardless.

blackthroatedwind · #6 04-04-2009, 08:48 PM

How could Talamo lose the ride after today? That's ridiculous.

The Indomitable DrugS · #7 04-04-2009, 08:57 PM

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How could Talamo lose the ride after today? That's ridiculous.

The owners realize that there are many better available options?

gales0678 · #8 04-04-2009, 09:53 PM

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How could Talamo lose the ride after today? That's ridiculous.

for once we agree , i thought it was a great ride , this was the type of race that ramon wouldn't have won on but talamo did

ramon would have found more trouble and finished 3rd cuse he ain't that good

gales0678 · #9 04-04-2009, 09:20 PM

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I prefer a jockey with a long record of good rides in pressure situations - you can have all the 19 yo's you want who made a big name for themselves by losing

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at double the takeout from over 300 dirt mounts at FG.

I guess if I didn't have some mix of $20 and $5 future book exactas at fixed odds with IWR over QR, IC, OF, WSB, field and Patena ... I wouldn't much care who rides him.

ask shug how he felt having the most expeinced jock and the best horse and losing 2/3 of the TC to a inferior horse

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 04-04-2009, 09:27 PM

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ask shug how he felt having the most expeinced jock and the best horse and losing 2/3 of the TC to a inferior horse

Sunday Silence was clearly the best horse in the Derby.

gales0678 · #11 04-04-2009, 09:30 PM

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Sunday Silence was clearly the best horse in the Derby.

patience by the rider cost easy goer the derby and Talmo could only have done better than the hall of famer in the preakness , easy goer never should have lost in baltimore

JJP · #12 04-04-2009, 10:42 PM

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[QUOTE=The Indomitable DrugS]I prefer a jockey with a long record of good rides in pressure situations - you can have all the 19 yo's you want who made a big name for themselves by losing at double the takeout from over 300 dirt mounts at FG.

I guess if I didn't have some mix of $20 and $5 future book exactas at fixed odds with IWR over QR, IC, OF, WSB, field and Patena ... I wouldn't much care who rides him.

ask shug how he felt having the most expeinced jock and the best horse and losing 2/3 of the TC to a inferior horse[/quote]

By the way, Sunday Silence beat him 3 out of the 4 times they faced off......Easy Goer's only win over him was at the irrelevant (for dirt) 12 furlong distance.

Indian Charlie · #13 04-04-2009, 10:50 PM

Did I really just read that Victor Espinoza is the most physically gifted jockey ever?

I thought that was Studart, but ok.

10 pnt move up · #14 04-05-2009, 12:39 AM

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ask shug how he felt having the most expeinced jock and the best horse and losing 2/3 of the TC to a inferior horse

I laughed

sdjcom · #15 04-04-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What the hell could he have done better after the break? He didn't panic, let the horse settle into stride and patiently waited for a hole to open. Yeah, he left a little to chance, but I prefer a jockey who trusts a good horse to put himself in position to win, over one who gets flustered and rushes a horse after a bad break or goes stupid wide to try to assure running room. Less is more on a horse like this.

you are right on the mark , he showed a cool head imo.

my miss storm cat · #16 04-04-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

If anything Talamo shold be considered to ride for all IEAH mounts. Horse broke slow but the kid never rushed his horse an guided him throughout, shifted outside and never showed the stick. Very classy and patient ride by Talamo.

I have no idea why people blame him for the poor break.

Agree.

Beautiful win and I don't give a crap how unpopular this is but congrats to Mullins.

Great win... love this horse.

edit - Not deleting what i said but **** this was before the detention barn episode...

Left Bank · #17 04-04-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

If anything Talamo shold be considered to ride for all IEAH mounts. Horse broke slow but the kid never rushed his horse an guided him throughout, shifted outside and never showed the stick. Very classy and patient ride by Talamo.

I have no idea why people blame him for the poor break.

Maybe they should put him on Stardom Bound instead of Mike"choke boy"Smith.

blackthroatedwind · #18 04-04-2009, 08:29 PM

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Maybe they should put him on Stardom Bound instead of Mike"choke boy"Smith.

I'm not Mike Smith's biggest fan, but please elaborate on how a rider who has won as many big races as Mike Smith has can be considered a choker.

Stardom Bound is a mediocrity. Mike Smith had zero to do with her performance today.

dalakhani · #19 04-04-2009, 08:32 PM

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Maybe they should put him on Stardom Bound instead of Mike"choke boy"Smith.

Wow. Smith's a choker? Tough crowd!

What did he do wrong?

Cannon Shell · #20 04-04-2009, 08:36 PM

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Wow. Smith's a choker? Tough crowd!

What did he do wrong?

Rode an overrated horse