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04-02-2009, 10:37 AM
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Interestingly (to me, at least), TheGreek has put up a line based (again) on the Pool 2 horses. Here it is:
2201 Bears Rocket 2202 Beethoven 2203 Big Drama 2204 Chocolate Candy +2250 2205 Desert Party +2250 2206 Dunkirk +1415 2207 Flying Pegasus +8550 2208 Friesan Fire +1025 2209 General Quarters +10250 2210 Giant Oak +3250 2211 Hello Broadway +7250 2212 I Want Revenge +1015 2213 Imperial Council +2550 2214 Old Fashioned +1415 2215 Papa Clem +4550 2216 Patena +5250 2217 Pioneer of the Nile +1415 2218 Quality Road +705 2219 Silver City 2220 Take the Points +8050 2221 The Pamplemousse +1525 2222 Theregoesjojo 2223 West Side Bernie +4550 2224 Any Other Horse +175 A blank means they are not offering odds. Note that the "All Other Horses" is down to 1.75-1. Makes Pool 2's 4.9-1 look good. The "takeout" on this line is 15.7%, but doesn't include the remote possibility that one of the horses like Big Drama or Theregoesjojo could actually run and win. There are odds at TheGreek for some of the new Pool 3 horses, too: 2231 Regal Ransom +2850 2232 Terrain +3550 2233 Hold Me Back +4050 2234 Musket Man +8050 2235 Win Willy +4550 2236 Mafaaz +4050 2237 Stardom Bound +4550 2238 Square Eddie +3550 --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson 
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04-03-2009, 10:07 AM
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The only change from yesterday in the odds at TheGreek that I posted above is that Quality Road has dropped from 7.05-1 to 5.25-1. (increasing the overall vig from 15.8% to 18.3%.)
CRIS/Bookmaker still has 7-1 on Quality Road. At KentuckyDerby.com it's pretty hard to tell that there is exacta wagering in Pool 3. If you click on "Current Odds" for Pool 3, it only shows you win odds, with not even a mention of exacta odds. --Dunbar PS--At 5Dimes there are no Kentucky Derby futures up, but at least you can bet on how many hotdogs will be eaten at Nathan's Coney Island Contest on July 4. It's televised, too. Nathan's Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest - Coney Island, New York - July 4, 2009 - ESPN Chestnut or Kobayashi must participate & contest duration must be 10 minutes for action Nathan's winner eats over 62˝ hot dogs -120 Nathan's winner eats under 62˝ hot dogs -120 I wonder who's bigger? Chestnut or Spanish Chestnut?
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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04-03-2009, 11:35 AM
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04-03-2009, 03:03 PM
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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04-05-2009, 09:35 AM
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I'd settle for 50-1, because I think Musket Man has a chance far above 0% to win. I wish I had some of the 80-1 that was available offshore before yesterday's race. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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04-05-2009, 01:07 PM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 04-05-2009 at 01:44 PM.
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04-05-2009, 01:10 PM
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2pm Future Prices:
1 Charitable Man Kiaran McLaughlin 30 40 2 Chocolate Candy Jerry Hollendorfer 30 22 3 Desert Party Saeed bin Suroor 30 18 4 Dunkirk Todd Pletcher 8 12 5 Flying Private D. Lukas 50 66 6 Friesan Fire J. Jones 8 7 7 Giant Oak Chris Block 30 59 8 Hold Me Back William Mott 30 27 9 I Want Revenge Jeff Mullins 8 9/2 10 Imperial Council Claude McGaughey III 20 41 11 Mafaaz (GB) John Gosden 50 80 12 Musket Man Derek Ryan 30 30 13 Mr. Hot Stuff Eoin Harty 30 99 14 Old Fashioned J. Jones 10 11 15 Papa Clem Gary Stute 30 52 16 Pioneerof the Nile Bob Baffert 10 11 17 Quality Road James Jerkens 6 5 18 Regal Ransom Saeed bin Suroor 30 44 19 Take the Points Todd Pletcher 30 99 20 Terrain Albert Stall, Jr. 50 52 21 The Pamplemousse Julio Canani 10 17 22 Theregoesjojo Kenneth McPeek 20 52 23 Win Willy McLean Robertson 20 16 24 All Other Three Ye 10 17
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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04-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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04-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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he's now 99/1 derek ryan is a good trainer , if he does win Ill why not take a shot on the 1st sat in may
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