The Impact of Horse players

Stall Mucker · #1 03-31-2009, 07:45 PM

Why was Will Rogers Downs selected for this buycott idea?

Why not a New York, Kentucky, Florida or California buycott? And how would this work with those facilities running racinos?

Got to be another way.

The buycott reminds me of the don't buy gasoline on a particular day idea. The oil companies don't give a fat rats......you'll need gas sooner or later.

Yes, bettors have a vote. Don't bet. But, why chase even more away from the game.

I believe the regulatory agencies have those operating race tracks (and OTBs) have those in the business handcuffed. It seems that a legislative route is the best way at this stage of the game with a collective agenda from operators, fans, bettors and all other stake holders.

pweizer · #2 03-31-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stall Mucker

Why was Will Rogers Downs selected for this buycott idea?

Why not a New York, Kentucky, Florida or California buycott? And how would this work with those facilities running racinos?

Got to be another way.

The buycott reminds me of the don't buy gasoline on a particular day idea. The oil companies don't give a fat rats......you'll need gas sooner or later.

Yes, bettors have a vote. Don't bet. But, why chase even more away from the game.

I believe the regulatory agencies have those operating race tracks (and OTBs) have those in the business handcuffed. It seems that a legislative route is the best way at this stage of the game with a collective agenda from operators, fans, bettors and all other stake holders.

My understanding is that a small gtrack was chosen so that the large extra influx of handle would be noticed.

Also, as the article makes clear, this is very different than a boycott. You are right that a boycott wouldn't work as players want to bet. This is not chasing money away from the game. It is adding money to a specific race. However, this could work if after a few of these track management sees that they could get large increases in handle by having player friendly policies.

Paul

DerbyCat · #3 03-31-2009, 11:05 PM

So, what was the total handle for the race, does anyone know? How did it compare to other races that day? Did the "buycott" actually have a visible impact?

Scav · #4 03-31-2009, 11:22 PM

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So, what was the total handle for the race, does anyone know? How did it compare to other races that day? Did the "buycott" actually have a visible impact?

No, and personally it is really a retarded idea. Betting a race at Bum**** Downs isn't going to get Churchill/Magna attention.

NOT BETTING will get their attention, but not one player, including myself, would do that

DerbyCat · #5 03-31-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

NOT BETTING will get their attention, but not one player, including myself, would do that

Exactly... which is why I bet on this race

Scav · #6 03-31-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Exactly... which is why I bet on this race

I meant not betting their tracks.

Scurlogue Champ · #7 03-31-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I meant not betting their tracks.

Well with things like Derby Barbie, the Over/Under, and Matrix wager, how could you avoid betting on Churchill? All of the elements are there.

DerbyCat · #8 03-31-2009, 11:59 PM

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I meant not betting their tracks.

Oh, I thought you meant not betting AT ALL... I'd hate to have to stop betting on any track at any time that I wanted to...

.....but I don't have a gambling problem

jballscalls · #9 04-01-2009, 01:36 AM

looks like the handle from the 5th race was about 35K, in the 6th race it went up to about 55k and the 7th race it went down to 25k or so. these arent exact numbers, just me adding up the chart totals. but apparently there was a noticeable difference.

ceejay · #10 04-01-2009, 05:59 PM

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Mutuel Pool: +76%
Exacta Pool: +147%
Quinella Pool: +62%
Trifecta Pool: +92%
Superfecta Pool: +60%
Overall Pool Bump: Plus 96%

We had about a 77% jump in handle from race 6 last week. From race 4 today we had about a 450% pool jump. It appears HANA members and other bettors showed up a little early to bet race 5 as it had larger than average pool numbers. Further, Will Rogers overall handle for 11 races was just below $250,000. The HANA/Mayo race alone represented about 20% of the entire cards handle.