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Old 03-31-2009, 03:26 PM
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Does Mike Mayo realize that much of what the track does is dictated by the state racing commission? A quick scan of Massachusetts General Law Chapter 128A really breaks down how much money goes to the state and when they expect it. The take out seems to largely depend on what the state dictates. While they dictate a maximum and not a minimum, the daily payback to the state is a perentage based on the maximum takeout allowed. I am not an attorney, nor do I work in the racing industry but my guess is that the state has it stacked against the tracks.

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Old 03-31-2009, 03:59 PM
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Good post.
Over the years, I have found that the Andy Serling "good post" seal of approval tends to be more capricious and arbitrary than an actual indicator of solid posting.

I find it odd that I have never received a similar slap on the back from Andy. Recently, I feel I have been on top of my posting game.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:44 PM
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This stuff is pointless.
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:49 PM
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:03 PM
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Over the years, I have found that the Andy Serling "good post" seal of approval tends to be more capricious and arbitrary than an actual indicator of solid posting.

I find it odd that I have never received a similar slap on the back from Andy. Recently, I feel I have been on top of my posting game.

In this case that poster explained, very clearly, the problem that most people seem to either be unaware of or ignore.

I should have said it was a great post.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:45 PM
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Why was Will Rogers Downs selected for this buycott idea?

Why not a New York, Kentucky, Florida or California buycott? And how would this work with those facilities running racinos?

Got to be another way.

The buycott reminds me of the don't buy gasoline on a particular day idea. The oil companies don't give a fat rats......you'll need gas sooner or later.

Yes, bettors have a vote. Don't bet. But, why chase even more away from the game.

I believe the regulatory agencies have those operating race tracks (and OTBs) have those in the business handcuffed. It seems that a legislative route is the best way at this stage of the game with a collective agenda from operators, fans, bettors and all other stake holders.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:51 PM
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Why was Will Rogers Downs selected for this buycott idea?

Why not a New York, Kentucky, Florida or California buycott? And how would this work with those facilities running racinos?

Got to be another way.

The buycott reminds me of the don't buy gasoline on a particular day idea. The oil companies don't give a fat rats......you'll need gas sooner or later.

Yes, bettors have a vote. Don't bet. But, why chase even more away from the game.

I believe the regulatory agencies have those operating race tracks (and OTBs) have those in the business handcuffed. It seems that a legislative route is the best way at this stage of the game with a collective agenda from operators, fans, bettors and all other stake holders.
My understanding is that a small gtrack was chosen so that the large extra influx of handle would be noticed.

Also, as the article makes clear, this is very different than a boycott. You are right that a boycott wouldn't work as players want to bet. This is not chasing money away from the game. It is adding money to a specific race. However, this could work if after a few of these track management sees that they could get large increases in handle by having player friendly policies.

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Old 04-01-2009, 12:05 AM
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So, what was the total handle for the race, does anyone know? How did it compare to other races that day? Did the "buycott" actually have a visible impact?
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:22 AM
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So, what was the total handle for the race, does anyone know? How did it compare to other races that day? Did the "buycott" actually have a visible impact?
No, and personally it is really a retarded idea. Betting a race at Bum**** Downs isn't going to get Churchill/Magna attention.

NOT BETTING will get their attention, but not one player, including myself, would do that
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:59 PM
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http://blog.horseplayersassociation.....html#comments
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Mutuel Pool: +76%
Exacta Pool: +147%
Quinella Pool: +62%
Trifecta Pool: +92%
Superfecta Pool: +60%
Overall Pool Bump: Plus 96%

We had about a 77% jump in handle from race 6 last week. From race 4 today we had about a 450% pool jump. It appears HANA members and other bettors showed up a little early to bet race 5 as it had larger than average pool numbers. Further, Will Rogers overall handle for 11 races was just below $250,000. The HANA/Mayo race alone represented about 20% of the entire cards handle.
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:03 PM
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In this case that poster explained, very clearly, the problem that most people seem to either be unaware of or ignore.

I should have said it was a great post.
every once in awhile I have a lucid moment.
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