owning a race horse

[Cajungator26]

What are the chances of breeding a decent thoroughbred your first time out? There is a nice stallion standing in PA for dirt cheap that I like a lot... does anyone have any idea of what it costs to hire a decent trainer?

owning a horse is extremelt expensive, its the most expensive pet you can have. not having owned one, and maybe someone who has can elaborate, but the cost a re extreme.
first you but it, lets say a minimun of 25,000 for a good dosage horse.

15,000 a year to feed it.
then you have to have a way to ship it, car, van , etc.
and then the entry fees for stakes (30,000 for the KD)
all the various equipment, you need extra 's too, bridles, saddles.
the trainer is what 15 bucks a day or so.
then there is the time, who will plan its day, do you have the time for a 1200 pound pet ?

this is basically a business you get into when you retire if you made milions throughout your life.
its what you spend the profits you made selling your lifelong enterprise on.
instead of buying stock , you buy livestock.

Originally Posted by Secretariat

owning a horse is extremelt expensive, its the most expensive pet you can have. not having owned one, and maybe someone who has can elaborate, but the cost a re extreme.
first you but it, lets say a minimun of 25,000 for a good dosage horse.

15,000 a year to feed it.
then you have to have a way to ship it, car, van , etc.
and then the entry fees for stakes (30,000 for the KD)
all the various equipment, you need extra 's too, bridles, saddles.
the trainer is what 15 bucks a day or so.
then there is the time, who will plan its day, do you have the time for a 1200 pound pet ?

this is basically a business you get into when you retire if you made milions throughout your life.
its what you spend the profits you made selling your lifelong enterprise on.
instead of buying stock , you buy livestock.

If you are looking at the big leagues that is true but you can get some nice horses cheaper but I would suggest buying fillies. Your colts are likely to find their way to europe for someone's dinner.

[Downthestretch55]

Cajun,
I got into it by breeding mine. It's not for everyone but it's something I like.
A good trainer...hmmm, it varies with the track. Figure $40 a day at a smaller track. The big tracks go for $80-$95.
One of my mares is in foal to Best of Luck (High Cliff Farm) on the nybreds.com site. I also have a nice new filly by Stanislavsky.
DTS

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

What are the chances of breeding a decent thoroughbred your first time out? There is a nice stallion standing in PA for dirt cheap that I like a lot... does anyone have any idea of what it costs to hire a decent trainer?

I live right near you. Who in PA are you looking at? Depending on what you have, Patton is a great value in PA. Around $2000. The best value in the country though is right near you. Snow Ridge stands for $5000.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

I live right near you. Who in PA are you looking at? Depending on what you have, Patton is a great value in PA. Around $2000. The best value in the country though is right near you. Snow Ridge stands for $5000.

I actually live in Florida, but I was looking for a decent stallion by Easy Goer (tough to find) and found one in Pennsylvania. Here is his information:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...ion_no=1422500

Here is his dosage profile: Dosage Profile: (9-6-16-0-1): DI: 2.56 CD: 0.69

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I actually live in Florida, but I was looking for a decent stallion by Easy Goer (tough to find) and found one in Pennsylvania. Here is his information:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...ion_no=1422500

Here is his dosage profile: Dosage Profile: (9-6-16-0-1): DI: 2.56 CD: 0.69

Thoughts?

$3500 sounds like a good deal. I know very little about Easy Goer stallions but who can complain about the great grandson of Hoisttheflag.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

$3500 sounds like a good deal. I know very little about Easy Goer stallions but who can complain about the great grandson of Hoisttheflag.

That is too funny... I didn't even think about that.

He looks like a nice stallion, although it's tough to tell without actually seeing him in person.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

With breeding there are several things to consider. First, is the wait. From the time your mare goes to the shed to be bred, you are going to have a minimum of two and a half years to get to the track. That is a long time! Correction, an eternity. Next, is cost. Let's say you pick up a decent mare for 10k. You send her to be bred for $5k. Daily cost is likely $25/day. For the first 550 days. Then, $50/day (mare and weanling) for the next 450 days. Plus, the mare will need to be bred back after the foal is delivered. The bred back the following year when the second foal to is delivered while you still have the first foal. Repeat. It gets to the point where you are paying the daily rate on a two year old, a yearling and the mare. And this is all if everything has gone perfectly. Vet bills just raise the price. Trainign once they are ready is also and added expense. It starts to make your head spin.

Basically, we figured that to get our first foal ($5k stud fee) to the yearling sale, without considering the cost of the mare (since we raced her), was about $25k without any substantial vet bills. But to sell and make money you must also consider the consigner's fee and the auction company fee. So, you need to take a marginal mare bred to a modest $5k stallion and produce something salable for 30k.

Now, if he has bad conformation, is just small, or is too big. He is worth very little. The catch is, and the reason people do this, you can hit the lottery. You could sell one bred like this for 100k+.

Breeding has been rewarding to me, but not at no cost. Still waiting ont he first one to get to the track as well. So, in the mean time I have been to the sales and purchased a yearling for action. More bills.

Last shining thought, WINNING a race and having the photo on my wall was the best thing ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I actually live in Florida, but I was looking for a decent stallion by Easy Goer (tough to find) and found one in Pennsylvania. Here is his information:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...ion_no=1422500

Here is his dosage profile: Dosage Profile: (9-6-16-0-1): DI: 2.56 CD: 0.69

Thoughts?

He was a very good horse.Even with his nice wins he never lived up to his potential. He was always set back with some minor problem. Without seeing the horse, I would think the potintial of finding a needle in a haystack is there. Comercialy Will was very well thought of when he started running.