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Old 03-25-2009, 12:25 PM
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The first one didn't have Giant Oak on there, if he runs well in the Blue Grass or Illinois Derby, he will go to the Kentucky Derby. Next three weeks should be awful interesting
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:31 PM
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Next three weeks should be awful interesting
Or simply awful..
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:35 PM
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:09 PM
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Not familiar with Crowded House. What is the story on this one? Is he being pointed to the Derby/TC?
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:47 PM
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Not familiar with Crowded House. What is the story on this one? Is he being pointed to the Derby/TC?
no - favourite for the Derby here.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:15 AM
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Big Drama's trainer did not rule out the Derby if Big Drama runs well in the Swale. He's got the earnings.

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"Fawkes stated earlier this month that Big Drama was off the Kentucky Derby trail. Could a big effort in the Swale alter those plans, especially since Big Drama already has enough graded earnings to make the field?

"I don't even want to think about the Derby right now," said Fawkes. "I'm just happy to have him back running again and in this race on Saturday."


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Old 03-27-2009, 01:09 PM
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BRISNET LIST OF GRADED EARNINGS

RANK HORSE EARNINGS
1. Square Eddie $774,981
2. Pioneerof the Nile 743,250
3. Friesan Fire 570,465
4. Vineyard Haven 417,500
5. Terrain 410,830
6. Old Fashioned 330,000
7. I Want Revenge 324,000
8. Hold Me Back 288,000
9. Desert Party 241,667
10. West Side Bernie 235,160
11. Chocolate Candy 220,000
12. Bittel Road 211,000
13. Musket Man* 200,000
14. Crowded House (GB) 195,020
15. The Pamplemousse 180,000
16. Win Willy* 180,000
17. Papa Clem 160,000
18. Charitable Man 150,000
19. Quality Road* 150,000
20. Mine That Bird 138,705
21. Beethoven 132,494
22. General Quarters 130,645
23. Munnings 105,000
24. Flying Private 94,000
25. Cribnote 90,000
26. Flying Pegasus 90,000
27. Join the Dance 67,500
28. Theregoesjojo 58,063
29. Regal Ransom 50,000
30. Imperial Council 50,000
31. Proceed Bee* 47,000
32. Atomic Rain 40,000
33. Take the Points 40,000
34. Feisty Suances 40,000
35. Jose Adan 37,900
36. Bear's Rocket 36,000
37. Poltergeist 30,000
38. Justdontcallmejeri* 30,000
39. Uno Mas 28,000
40. Gone Astray 27,500
41. Nowhere to Hide 27,000
42. Mr. Fantasy 25,000
43. Rendezvous 24,000
44. Jeranimo 24,000
45. Parade Clown 23,500
46. Patena 20,000
47. Soul Warrior 18,000
48. Ventana 16,600
49. Captain Cherokee 15,000
50. Brave Victory 14,833

*not nominated to Triple Crown

Updated through 3/24/09
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:48 AM
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Question: "If Dunkirk runs second this weekend, then he will have enough earnings to qualify for the Derby" has been asserted as fact by many media types and others.

Is this certainly true? Are there horses ahead of him who could add to their earnings and have more than $150,000? How many of the current top 20 earners are definitely not running in the Derby?
A lot will depend on what happens in Dubai as well. If North American 3yos finish in the top three spots of the UAE Derby and all decide to come it will really change things especially with one spot guaranteed for that goat from Europe.
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:40 PM
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Question: "If Dunkirk runs second this weekend, then he will have enough earnings to qualify for the Derby" has been asserted as fact by many media types and others.

Is this certainly true? Are there horses ahead of him who could add to their earnings and have more than $150,000? How many of the current top 20 earners are definitely not running in the Derby?
It's almost certainly not true.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:15 PM
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Question: "If Dunkirk runs second this weekend, then he will have enough earnings to qualify for the Derby" has been asserted as fact by many media types and others.

Is this certainly true? Are there horses ahead of him who could add to their earnings and have more than $150,000? How many of the current top 20 earners are definitely not running in the Derby?
Last year Denis of Cork was the last horse in at I believe 165K
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:18 PM
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RANK HORSE EARNINGS Chances of going
1. Square Eddie $774,981 50/50
2. Pioneerof the Nile 743,250 100%
3. Friesan Fire 570,465 100%
4. Vineyard Haven 417,500 0%
5. Terrain 410,830 50/50
6. Old Fashioned 330,000 100%
7. I Want Revenge 324,000 100%
8. Hold Me Back 288,000 100%
9. Desert Party 241,667 90%
10. West Side Bernie 235,160 50/50
11. Chocolate Candy 220,000 80%
12. Bittel Road 211,000 30%
13. Musket Man* 200,000 80%
14. Crowded House (GB) 195,020 ?
15. The Pamplemousse 180,000 90%
16. Win Willy* 180,000 90%
17. Papa Clem 160,000 50/50
18. Charitable Man 150,000 20%
19. Quality Road* 150,000 100%
20. Mine That Bird 138,705 will be ahead, no more preps
21. Beethoven 132,494 injured, doubtful
22. General Quarters 130,645 will be ahead, one more prep?
23. Munnings 105,000 ?? prob should be off this list
24. Flying Private 94,000 Ark Derby?
25. Cribnote 90,000 not pointing to derby
26. Flying Pegasus 90,000 Ark Derby?
27. Join the Dance 67,500
28. Theregoesjojo 58,063 will be ahead, no more preps
29. Regal Ransom 50,000 * jumps to top of list, 80%?
30. Imperial Council 50,000 Wood Memorial
31. Proceed Bee* 47,000 Lexington?
32. Atomic Rain 40,000 ?
33. Take the Points 40,000 Wood Memorial
34. Feisty Suances 40,000
35. Jose Adan 37,900
36. Bear's Rocket 36,000
37. Poltergeist 30,000
38. Justdontcallmejeri* 30,000
39. Uno Mas 28,000
40. Gone Astray 27,500

Looking at this list, Dunkirk is in better shape than I had originally thought. He'll be 20th, with that goofball Kempton race taking a slot, so really 21st. He'd have to have ALL of those above him to go (very unlikely), and I only see 5 that can leapfrog him barring some bizzare horses winning next week and the week after.

I'm still not a huge fan but he showed me a lot today.
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