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Old 03-17-2009, 03:08 PM
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the point of the thread joey was that we are to believe that wake is the #16 team in the country ?

if you were pitino who would you rather see in the sweet 16 of all the 4's ?


i posted some lines of the #1 vs #4 's - why don't tell me where my lines are wrong and then if they all get there we can check it out

Wake is a favorite over Kansas and a pickem against MSU in the elite 8

"zaga is a dog against cuse or OU in a regional final
Sagarin predictor which is usually not far from the lines says Gonzaga and Louisville would be a pickem on a neutral court. I'm sure that wouldn't be the case with the actual line but it is quite interesting nonetheless.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:11 PM
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Sagarin predictor which is usually not far from the lines says Gonzaga and Louisville would be a pickem on a neutral court. I'm sure that wouldn't be the case with the actual line but it is quite interesting nonetheless.

go ahead and take a crack , i posted 4 lines , just interested in what you guys think the sweet 16 lines will be 1's vs 4's that's all
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:15 PM
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go ahead and take a crack , i posted 4 lines , just interested in what you guys think the sweet 16 lines will be 1's vs 4's that's all
if the seeds hold...
Louisville -6 Wake
Pittsburgh -4 Xavier
Connecticut -8 Washington
UNC -7 Gonzaga
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:16 PM
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Well we agree on 1 at least!
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:26 PM
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I think Wake is as likely to lose in the first round as they are to somehow make the Elite Eight. That team started out great, but definitely came back to earth a bit coming down the stretch.

Has anybody read the Giant Killers blog on ESPN at all? I wasn't high on them earlier, but after reading some stats, I'd be shocked if KU makes it past the first weekend.

Opining on other early matchups:

Oklahoma smells like a team that loses early. They rely a ton on FT differential, and with Griffin's recent travails, I'm not certain they're as good as the other #2 seeds.

Missouri is sneaky good, and if anything is their downfall, it's tourney inexperience. Ditto West Virginia but with the tourney experience - they're just flat out pretty darn good. If I'm KU, I'm desperately hoping WVU somehow gets knocked off by Dayton lest I not make it to Indianapolis.

The 7-10 games are all really crappy power conference teams playing other really crappy power conference teams. I wish at least a couple of those teams were something other than Cal or Michigan.

Illinois is going down.

Villanova turns the ball over way too often to have anything longer than a Sweet 16 run.

Temple is making the Sweet 16.

Anyway, I could prognosticate forever and probably be wrong about 3/4 of the stuff I just wrote. This is the best time of the year, guys.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:21 PM
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if the seeds hold...
Louisville -6 Wake
Pittsburgh -4 Xavier
Connecticut -8 Washington
UNC -7 Gonzaga
unc you are not adding in the vegas public $ 3 points - i think you are too low



Pitt- actually suprised by your choice this as i could never see vegas letting Pitt only give 4 to a Mid Major and 'vill give six to the runner up in the acc

but at least you give an opinion on here thx
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:56 PM
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unc you are not adding in the vegas public $ 3 points - i think you are too low



Pitt- actually suprised by your choice this as i could never see vegas letting Pitt only give 4 to a Mid Major and 'vill give six to the runner up in the acc

but at least you give an opinion on here thx
Pitt's ASM is 17.5, Xavier's 12.5. Factoring in the neutral court and Pitt generally being a not-well-liked wagering team PLUS their poor history in the sweet 16 I think any more than -4 and the books would get loaded up by the sharps on the dog.

I've spent several tournaments in Vegas and one of the things I've noticed is the Sweet 16 lines are ALWAYS a lot tighter than you would expect. The dumb money has gone home after the 2nd round and the favorites end up being a bucket or two less than you would expect.
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Why would North Carolina possibly be considering playing Lawson against Radford?
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:25 PM
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go ahead and take a crack , i posted 4 lines , just interested in what you guys think the sweet 16 lines will be 1's vs 4's that's all
The pure predictor comes up with pretty interesting lines:

North Carolina (-2.5) Gonzaga (I guess -6)
Louisville (-3.5) Wake Forest (I guess -4)
Connecticut (-3.5) Washington (I guess -5)
Pittsburgh (-6) Xavier (I guess -7)
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