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[blackthroatedwind]

Freisan Fire's speed, if nothing else, will be his undoing down the road. It's entirely possible that one day he may not get an absolutely perfect trip.

He's OK, though, and better than I have given him credit for being.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Freisan Fire's speed, if nothing else, will be his undoing down the road. It's entirely possible that one day he may not get an absolutely perfect trip.

He's OK, though, and better than I have given him credit for being.

He's interesting in that yeah, he's got good speed, but he's always got a hold of down the backside. He looks like a very rateable push buttoned horse. If they go fast early on in his upcoming races, I see no reason why he won't be able to sit again, though just a bit further back.

In his two previous races he ran the same way as today. Jock has a hold of him as he sits right near the pace. It was a little peculiar that he would be sitting full of run and then run evenly or not very impressively in the stretch, until today.

My theory being he wasn't that fit and was being raced into shape.

Who really knows what he's been beating, but I think he's got a perfect racing style and will be hard to beat in Ky.

Does anyone know if he's going to run another prep race before the derby?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My theory being he wasn't that fit and was being raced into shape.

Even though he's run much better with each of his four races this year - He's still slower than Old Fashioned - and Old Fashioned had just one work for this race today and hasn't had the Cowboy hat guy tighten the screws yet.

Hard Spun went into the Derby off of a five week layoff - since FF is so heavily raced this year - I think he might go into the race off of a six week layoff. Probably will run in the Blue Grass if he chooses one final prep.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Even though he's run much better with each of his four races this year - He's still slower than Old Fashioned - and Old Fashioned had just one work for this race today and hasn't had the Cowboy hat guy tighten the screws yet.

Yeah, I agree about OF. That is about not having the screws tightened yet. I expect him to run a much better race in the Arkansas Derby.

No way he wins the Kentucky Derby though.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I don't like him in the Derby either - but he's much less absurd than Fresian Fire!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't like him in the Derby either - but he's much less absurd than Fresian Fire!

Patena?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Freisan Fire's speed, if nothing else, will be his undoing down the road. It's entirely possible that one day he may not get an absolutely perfect trip.

He's OK, though, and better than I have given him credit for being.

I liked what I saw today. I had "all" in the pick 4 because the previous races ended up going my way so obviously I was against him but he has improved in every race, as the races get longer and experience. He's a hell of a lot better than I've given him credit for, I had discounted the NY 2YO races so much thanks to the poor performances of Break Water Edison, Hello Broadway, and Vineyard Haven, and figured his FG races were perfect-trip mirages against much lesser (kind of like Pyro last year). I think we have forgotten with so many recent Derby winners being so lightly raced (and undefeated, for that matter) that the old school way was to have a horse built for distance that improves with every start. His stablemate probably has more talent but has less of a chance to get the distance due to pedigree and running style, which seems pretty one-dimensional, he dragged the jock to the lead today into a pretty ridiculous pace. FF at least has shown he can sit off a few lengths and put in a run when called on.

The best horse of this generation isn't even nominated for the Triple Crown yet (of course he probably will be soon). Other than him, FF might be the 2nd most likely winner of the Derby at this point.