Trevor Denman - Gio Ponti

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I thought it was ballsy....I had no clue. Looked like Gio Ponti got up, but never would have called it without seeing a slowed replay.

When first watching it I thought Ventura had held on, I've watched many races from SA and I was surprised he called Gio Ponti when they crossed the wire. Usually racecaller's will say 'too close to call' or 'photo' given it was on Big Cap day and it was the Kilroy, I thought he showed alot of balls. When they replay that Kilroy years from now, it was nailed. I can only imagine if he was wrong, you can't go back and recall the race. He took a big risk.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

When first watching it I thought Ventura had held on, I've watched many races from SA and I was surprised he called Gio Ponti when they crossed the wire. Usually racecaller's will say 'too close to call' or 'photo' given it was on Big Cap day and it was the Kilroy, I thought he showed alot of balls. When they replay that Kilroy years from now, it was nailed. I can only imagine if he was wrong, you can't go back and recall the race. He took a big risk.

I hear ya. Even John Dooley, who is my favorite track announcer, will call it a photo lots of times when it's completely clear who won...so basically the exact opposite of what Denman did. That's about the only thing I don't like about him, is that he anticipates there being a photo 40 yards out, and then a horse wins by a half-length.

[jballscalls]

One thing you have to remember about calling photos is placement of the announcers booth. I know in my 3 years at river, i probably called photo without calling a winner or atleast saying who i thought got it maybe 3 times ever. Cause my booth was right on the wire.

At Portland, i'm atleast 50 to 60 feet up the stretch from the wire. I've heard Tampa is damn near 100 feet up from the wire and at keeneland, Kurt Becker is halfway between the two finishes.

That being said, i thought watching the race Gio Ponti got it but was surprised to hear Trevor call it that close, and after watching the first replay i thought Gio Ponti might not have got it LOL Kudos to a legend!

[the_fat_man]

Gee isn't he impressive. So he gets lucky and we need to kiss his ass.

How about all the times where he takes STABS at the pace and ****s up? A fairly common occurrence for him.

You know, when he sees a bunch of horses contesting and ASSUMES that the pace is fast, and then looks like an idiot when the split is posted. Of when he assumes the pace is picking up when horses start accelerating; etc.

The day can't come quick enough when ALL tracks will have TRAKUS (or something similar) and we can mute out all the NOISE (of the race caller). Which is exactly what I do at DMR: MUTE THE DOOFUS.

[Travis Stone]

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

It would be o.k. for you to go out on the limb calling T' breds (so what if Dave Johnson makes a lil blunder before he calls it a career.)

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

Jballscalls, Travis

That's fair, it depends on the vantage point where you are calling from and I can understand that. I just don't remembering a high profile racecaller calling a horse in as close a finish as in this Kilroy and being so sure of themselves. This wasn't a 10K claimer on a lazy Thurs afternoon, it's certainly not the norm.

[ateamstupid]

Big deal. The guy has a good eye for photos. Last time I checked, we have replays, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't cancel out all of his other annoying traits.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

If you want to see/hear an announcer make good calls on the wire,tune in to Ed Burgart at Los Alamitos.He is almost better than shuttercam.

[Travis Stone]

I've made my fair share of "on the limb" photo calls... last year's Super Derby Prelude was one I sweated-out for a good two minutes before they posted the winner. I've also bailed on a few, but oh well.

Calling photos is not a macho thing with announcers by any stretch. Not once I have I received, made or heard of a call saying, "Holy ****, did you see that photo I just called?"

I think calling the photo is over-rated from the little to the big races. It's what goes on between the start and the finish which sets-up the photo that, in my opinion, is more important from the announcers perspective. If the listener has no idea who is in the photo, than what good is the photo to begin with? That sort of mentality...

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

If you want to see/hear an announcer make good calls on the wire,tune in to Ed Burgart at Los Alamitos.He is almost better than shuttercam.

While you are tuning in to Los Al, watch the Australians in between. Those guys could call our races with one eye open and a hooker on each leg.

[ArlJim78]

i didn't notice that Trevor called the photo, but its not something I care about really, the announcers opinion of the photo.

I'll take any of the announcers on this board before TD anyday. John Imbriale is a god compared to him. I don't get all the fawning over him. The amount of inaccuracies that he comes up with is staggering.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

Rocking Rocky Dash overcame some traffic trouble to win today at 12-1!!

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

calling a Q race can't be easy, no matter what the names are

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Gee isn't he impressive. So he gets lucky and we need to kiss his ass.

How about all the times where he takes STABS at the pace and ****s up? A fairly common occurrence for him.

You know, when he sees a bunch of horses contesting and ASSUMES that the pace is fast, and then looks like an idiot when the split is posted. Of when he assumes the pace is picking up when horses start accelerating; etc.

The day can't come quick enough when ALL tracks will have TRAKUS (or something similar) and we can mute out all the NOISE (of the race caller). Which is exactly what I do at DMR: MUTE THE DOOFUS.

Contrarian of the board?..Obcourse lets just continue with the status quo have no one ever go out on the limb and call head, neck finishes as photo finishes.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by CSC

Contrarian of the board?..Obcourse lets just continue with the status quo have no one ever go out on the limb and call head, neck finishes as photo finishes.

Son of Sam=Famous 70's Contrarian

"I feel like an outsider. I am on a different wavelength than everybody else.."-S.O.S.

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Son of Sam=Famous 70's Contrarian

Any response from Fatman I take as a compliment anyway, the more contrarian the more the compliment.