Sun KIng

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Sun King looked like a miler.A good race from him.That track is certainly not for everybody.

Sun King is having a great campaign this year, anybody can see that.

[Gander]

That was an awesome effort from him yesterday. Too bad the track seemed to be so geared against him.

Originally Posted by Gander

That was an awesome effort from him yesterday. Too bad the track seemed to be so geared against him.

Pais, please note this response to a friend!!!
Seattle, You are about as stupid when it comes to analyzing races as anyone alive.
Sun King was beaten a nose and a head in the two most prestigious races for older horses on the east Coast.
yesterday, while running in a paceless race and against a speed bias, he showed heart and determination while attempting to run down the leaders despite the fact that noone else in the race could even make a dent on them in the lane.
The horse has earned about 2 million bucks. Although he lacks speed and at times consistency, hes always been a threat when racing at the very highest level.
I suggest you stick to computers, because you don't know a damn thing about horses.

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Pais, please note this response to a friend!!!
Seattle, You are about as stupid when it comes to analyzing races as anyone alive.
Sun King was beaten a nose and a head in the two most prestigious races for older horses on the east Coast.
yesterday, while running in a paceless race and against a speed bias, he showed heart and determination while attempting to run down the leaders despite the fact that noone else in the race could even make a dent on them in the lane.
The horse has earned about 2 million bucks. Although he lacks speed and at times consistency, hes always been a threat when racing at the very highest level.
I suggest you stick to computers, because you don't know a damn thing about horses.

That about sums it up. Sun King tries his heart out every time and is having one hell of a year, if he would have had a little better racing luck he would have been a dual G1 winner in two of the most important races of the year and would be a live contender for horse of the year. If Zito is smart, he'll give him some time off and get him ready for the Classic with an easy prep.

It also appeared to me that Julien used him a little early before the final turn, Rafael may have been the difference in this race. But, considering how the track was on Saturday he still ran a great race and should be commended for how game he is no matter who he's facing. Love the guts and heart of this horse.

[Pedigree Ann]

Look at the charts from Saturday -- on the main track, no winner was worse than second at the quarter pole. The stretch was a no-passing zone so I think Sun King ran a commendable race.

[King Glorious]

Amazing stuff. Sun King tried hard and ran a great race? If he's a really good horse, what does this make Premium Tap? U know Premium Tap has beaten him twice now. And what does this make Second of June? U know, the same Second of June that hasn't won a race since 2003? Give it up. Sun King is not a top class horse and all this race does is confirms that Invasor is extremely overrated.

[Cannon Shell]

KG,
Who is good? Lava Man ? Everyone else sucks???

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

KG,
Who is good? Lava Man ? Everyone else sucks???

Lava Man is good. Bernardini is good. I think Discreet Cat is in that class also (although admittedly, he's got to do more to prove it to everyone). Other than that, I don't think there are any other horses that route that are any good, 3yo's or older. Wait, I forgot about Bright One and Cindago. But the jury is still out on both of those two but they have potential to be good ones.

The rest? Yes, they all suck. U can put a blanket over them and they are all the same horse. The ones that win today will come in last in the next race and the ones that were nowhere to be found today will win the next race. The only consistency in the division is the inconsistency. Invasor has seemed like he is a step ahead of them but he's beaten absolutely nothing at all and was all out to barely beat Sun King, who is simply NOT a grade one winning horse. He had the perfect opportunity here and couldn't get it done again and hold's a losing record versus Premium Tap. Let's be real here. Premium Tap is not a world beater. He had 13 career starts before yesterday and no graded stakes wins and only $171k in earnings. Then Second of June also beat him, he of no wins since January of 2004. And he barely beats Papi Chullo, he of no career stakes wins and who was last seen losing the Longacres Mile. Meanwhile, not one but all of the supposed top stakes horses in the race (Flower Alley, Sun King, Suave, Andromeda's Hero, and Funny Cide) all flopped.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I strongly disagree with your analysis of Sun King. He had no shot in the Woodward on that track. It was very biased towards speed Saturday, and Sunday for that matter. He closed to finish within a length or so, and he was the only one who made a winning move in that race. He was also a nose back in quite possibly the two most prestegious races for older horses in NY, in the Met Mile and Whitney. Both are grade ones. And who beat him in those two races? Silver Train, who is about unbeatable at Belmont, and Invasor, a horse who has lost one race in his life, to Discreet cat, who you think is good. Sun King is definitely a grade I caliber horse, and he has proven it by keeping that company for the past two years.

First thing is that how can it be possible that Sun King was the ONLY one that made a WINNING MOVE in a race in which he finished third? Did the first two finishers make losing moves? I don't understand that. There is a difference, at least to me, in being grade one caliber and a grade one horse. Going Wild was keeping grade one company last year. Did that make him grade one caliber? If EVERYTIME u step up to that level, u lose, that's saying something. EVERYTIME.