Looks like NYRA decided to tune the track up...

#1 09-02-2006, 04:35 PM

..for today's Woodward/Forego card...Wow, all you had to do is make the lead and the race was over...it was like Keeneland in New York....now we have a phony Grade 1 winner in Premium Tap....

Commentator is clearly a feast or famine type of horse...if things don't go his way he is not going to run....he didn't make the lead and he threw up in the stretch....now we know why Zito was stretching him out...he must have known he wouldn't get easy leads going short against good horses...

disappointing race by him....

Pomeroy is what he is...I like the horse but Coolmore wouldn't have sold him if he were anything special....I think Henny Hughes would have embarrassed that bunch...

..not quite sure what to make of any of it though with the bias screwing things up....the only thing I had right is that Flower Alley is done....probably hear about his retirement pretty soon...

Nostradamus · #2 09-02-2006, 04:36 PM

I totally agree about the track. The Woodward was a pretty weak race though. Not a real grade 1 winner in there (except a finished Flower Alley). HH or Discreet Cat would have walked in that earlier race.

dalakhani · #3 09-02-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

..for today's Woodward/Forego card...Wow, all you had to do is make the lead and the race was over...it was like Keeneland in New York....now we have a phony Grade 1 winner in Premium Tap....

Commentator is clearly a feast or famine type of horse...if things don't go his way he is not going to run....he didn't make the lead and he threw up in the stretch....now we know why Zito was stretching him out...he must have known he wouldn't get easy leads going short against good horses...

disappointing race by him....

Pomeroy is what he is...I like the horse but Coolmore wouldn't have sold him if he were anything special....I think Henny Hughes would have embarrassed that bunch...

..not quite sure what to make of any of it though with the bias screwing things up....

Pomeroy is a horse for course and that course is obviously Saratoga. Did Commentator break bad? He must have. I havent seen the replay but i have never seen him that far back in the beginning stages of a race.

2MinsToPost · #4 09-02-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Pomeroy is a horse for course and that course is obviously Saratoga. Did Commentator break bad? He must have. I havent seen the replay but i have never seen him that far back in the beginning stages of a race.

yeah commentator had a bad break

#5 09-02-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Pomeroy is a horse for course and that course is obviously Saratoga. Did Commentator break bad? He must have. I havent seen the replay but i have never seen him that far back in the beginning stages of a race.

He didn't break well Dalakhani, but I still didn't like the fact that he finally was forced to rate because of that and run out of his comfort zone and failed to respond to the challenge....truly good horses don't have to have things go their way to fire their best shot....

Betsy · #6 09-02-2006, 04:41 PM

What a disappointment the Woodward was, truly dissatisfying. I wonder who will show in the Gold Cup to face Invasor and Bernardini?

Danzig · #7 09-02-2006, 04:47 PM

i thought it was satisfying. second of june finished second to suave in their last. premium tap was one i liked in HIS last, but he was short. fired today. sun king always regresses off a top effort..another board finish in a graded race for him. that's seven gr ones he's finished second or third in....watch out for him next time out.

suave checked early, failed to menace. funny cide is funny cide.

as for the forego, pomeroy loves it at saratoga...i ignored his history at that track and it cost me.
commentator did indeed have a bad break, completely took him out of his game. they chose one hell of a return for him.

Suffolk Shippers · #8 09-02-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i thought it was satisfying. second of june finished second to suave in their last. premium tap was one i liked in HIS last, but he was short. fired today. sun king always regresses off a top effort..another board finish in a graded race for him. that's seven gr ones he's finished second or third in....watch out for him next time out.

suave checked early, failed to menace. funny cide is funny cide.

as for the forego, pomeroy loves it at saratoga...i ignored his history at that track and it cost me.
commentator did indeed have a bad break, completely took him out of his game. they chose one hell of a return for him.

not true! Funny Cide was not Funny Cide today, usually hes good for a tease and a fade to 3rd or 4th

He had a nice spot right off the lead on a speed track and mysteriously went backwards! Usually he just runs and doesnt win, today he ran, and I think the ambulance may have beat him home.

Betsy · #9 09-02-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i thought it was satisfying. second of june finished second to suave in their last. premium tap was one i liked in HIS last, but he was short. fired today. sun king always regresses off a top effort..another board finish in a graded race for him. that's seven gr ones he's finished second or third in....watch out for him next time out.

suave checked early, failed to menace. funny cide is funny cide.

as for the forego, pomeroy loves it at saratoga...i ignored his history at that track and it cost me.
commentator did indeed have a bad break, completely took him out of his game. they chose one hell of a return for him.

I disagree, but heck, that makes racing. I don't think any of these horses are really top class, but hey, someone had to win. Sun King is a very nice horse - I sure would love to own him. I'm not sure he could run that race against Invasor again, but he deserves another crack. I don't think he has a prayer against Bernardini.

Danzig · #10 09-02-2006, 04:59 PM

i meant funny cide is funny cide as in once again in over his head, and i'm sure did his best--which in these fields is no longer enough, but everyone was hoping for more than he had. he is what he is. a hard trier, who is misunderstood by his owners.

Danzig · #11 09-02-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I don't think he has a prayer against Bernardini.

no, really?

you ought to make that your signature, rather than having to type it at the end of all your posts.

Mike_79 · #12 09-02-2006, 05:07 PM

Judging from some of the posts I've read on this forum, I'm not sure a porsche would even have a chance against Bernardini.

Betsy · #13 09-02-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

no, really?

you ought to make that your signature, rather than having to type it at the end of all your posts.

Since you can't resist insulting me all the time, why not just ignore my posts? My life would be a lot easier if I do the same to you and then you could avoid wasting time by typing insults to me, since I won't see them anyway.

I find it very interesting that you pick on ME EVERYTIME I make a comment involving Bernardini. You seem just a TAD biased towards Sun King, but if you think he's better than Bernardini, you'll get your chance to cash a nice bet in a couple of months.

I will not get into a flame war here, so if you have anything else to say to me, PM me. Otherwise, I'm moving on.

Danzig · #14 09-02-2006, 05:13 PM

i gotta think tho, that this thread sounds like johnson after the pacific classic...

Danzig · #15 09-02-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

Since you can't resist insulting me all the time, why not just ignore my posts? My life would be a lot easier if I do the same to you and then you could avoid wasting time by typing insults to me, since I won't see them anyway.

I find it very interesting that you pick on ME EVERYTIME I make a comment involving Bernardini. You seem just a TAD biased towards Sun King, but if you think he's better than Bernardini, you'll get your chance to cash a nice bet in a couple of months.

I will not get into a flame war here, so if you have anything else to say to me, PM me. Otherwise, I'm moving on.

lol

i was making a friendly suggestion. so sorry. and i'm biased toward sun king. hell, i never picked him today, i told everyone he was a bet against.

man oh man....
do you know how immediately you get your back up?

#16 09-02-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i gotta think tho, that this thread sounds like johnson after the pacific classic...

Nice...but I didn't wager a dollar today, so if I gripe as a fan and with no tangibles vested, then it is a practicle gripe IMO...not like I'm a sore loser who just lost $100 betting Commentator or something...I'm just mad that we now have a phony Grade 1 winner.....we have enough bad stallions diluting the horse pedigress in the breeding shed out there today..we sure don't need any others like Premium Tap having excuses to breed...just my opinion...

Seattleallstar · #17 09-02-2006, 05:31 PM

whats wrong with PT, hes a decent horse granted he is nowhere near top class. I mean hell even Lava Man wins Grade 1 races, this shouldnt surprise anyone

pdrift1 · #18 09-02-2006, 05:46 PM

don't be surprised at suaves last place finish. he ran huge out of the wph and bounced as usual he never can string 2 wins together but will be in the mix next out

Danzig · #19 09-02-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Nice...but I didn't wager a dollar today, so if I gripe as a fan and with no tangibles vested, then it is a practicle gripe IMO...not like I'm a sore loser who just lost $100 betting Commentator or something...I'm just mad that we now have a phony Grade 1 winner.....we have enough bad stallions diluting the horse pedigress in the breeding shed out there today..we sure don't need any others like Premium Tap having excuses to breed...just my opinion...

well, those who don't think he's legit will surely stay away come breeding time...sun king was knocking on the door, and pressed invasor in his last...this guy has beat sun king twice, so if SK is a legit threat, than shouldn't premium tap be??? if he's not, than sun kings not legit either...maybe you're right, maybe they all stink.....