govt's gift to us

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

By simply stating that the economic plan is
NOT intended to redistribute wealth in a completey
unfair way. The plan is designed to blah, blah, blah...

I am not talking about the straight consumption tax
that cannon speaks of. That kind of consumption tax
hurts little guys much more than big guys...
His soda example.

For one thing, the Gov't doesn't redistribute wealth. Nobody is getting wealthy from something the Gov't is doing(except those getting the no-bid contracts he was talking about last week.) Also, there rarely is anything fair about wealth. The oil companies have been getting rich charging poor people 40-50 cents a gallon profit for quite a while the last 4 or 5 years, and nobody hardly complained about that lack of competition involved. Funny time to bring up fairness after that didn't bother you.

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

For one thing, the Gov't doesn't redistribute wealth.

I disagree. That's what government does. In fact using gov't power to redistribute wealth has long been a staple of progressive thought in this country.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank

I disagree. That's what government does. In fact using gov't power to redistribute wealth has long been a staple of progressive thought in this country.

The GOV'T doesn't try to make new people wealthy. Gov't uses tax money to help the society as a whole. If it was a more tribal situation, then people would naturally do this. A country like this is made up of people that feel no connection to other members of society(part of this is due to a lack of respect for U.S. Citizenship rights.) That's why people in this country resent taxes so much, and try to avoid paying their share. They give away U.S. Citizenship like it's nothing, and then wonder why people don't want to pay tax to help people that they feel shouldn't even be here. In a more tribal situation, people feel the need to help those that have common blood/language etc. They don't see it as redistribution of wealth, because these people are "their people." They are one, and we can't relate to that well(at all.) That's why most Americans see taxes as a waste(or redistribution) instead of an important commitment to their country(or their people.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank

I disagree. That's what government does. In fact using gov't power to redistribute wealth has long been a staple of progressive thought in this country.

Govt is supposed to govern the people, enforce the laws, keep them safe, provide and maintain infrastructure, deal with foreign govts, etc. They arent designed or intended to be wealth distribution entities. Going down this road is scary. The same address is communism, socialism and dictatorships. While it is only a first step, taking money one segment and basically giving it to another causes major ripples in the pool which ultimately will reflect poorly on the vaunted "middle class".

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Govt is supposed to govern the people, enforce the laws, keep them safe, provide and maintain infrastructure, deal with foreign govts, etc. They arent designed or intended to be wealth distribution entities. Going down this road is scary. The same address is communism, socialism and dictatorships. While it is only a first step, taking money one segment and basically giving it to another causes major ripples in the pool which ultimately will reflect poorly on the vaunted "middle class".

Chuck I concur with you 100%. My prior post was strictly an observation. It's maddening to read what the Constitution states the duties of government are vs the leviathan into which government has evolved.