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Old 02-25-2009, 11:18 PM
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The PGA Tour is testing, and as a matter of fact, Tiger was even tested during his time off after his surgery this past year.

In the other post, where you talked about being able to hit the ball further without more effort ,making you a better golfer...well, no offense, but thats just insane.
I'll use this as an example, if a player is ranked 100 - 200 in the world rankings and is looking for an edge in breaking into the top 50 in rankings, if someone came up to them and said I can guarantee you another 15-20 yds in distance, that isn't going to improve your game? 15-20 yds on approach shots to the green can mean the difference from using a wedge to using an iron. You may disagree but without getting into a golf discussion this evening, I say distance does matter, is it the only variable in golf, obcourse not but it does come in play in golf. Just as putting, course Mgt..ect...
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:27 PM
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I'll use this as an example, if a player is ranked 100 - 200 in the world rankings and is looking for an edge in breaking into the top 50 in rankings, if someone came up to them and said I can guarantee you another 15-20 yds in distance, that isn't going to improve your game? 15-20 yds on approach shots to the green can mean the difference from using a wedge to using an iron. You may disagree but without getting into a golf discussion this evening, I say distance does matter, is it the only variable in golf, obcourse not but it does come in play in golf. Just as putting, course Mgt..ect...

Do me a favor. Go back to the mid 1980s and find out what the average driving distance was for PGA Pros then and check the average driving distance now. Then, checking the average scoring average then vs now.

EVERYONE is hitting it further, but scoring averages arent going down. If hitting it further makes you better, then scoring averages should be plummeting....but they arent.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:30 PM
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Do me a favor. Go back to the mid 1980s and find out what the average driving distance was for PGA Pros then and check the average driving distance now. Then, checking the average scoring average then vs now.

EVERYONE is hitting it further, but scoring averages arent going down. If hitting it further makes you better, then scoring averages should be plummeting....but they arent.
The problem with your argument is Golf Courses are longer now, it is not an accurate representation to use that data.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:37 PM
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Anyone remember Augusta National after 97 will know where the term 'Tiger proofing" came from. Imagine the scores now if they left the course the way it was then.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:43 PM
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Anyone remember Augusta National after 97 will know where the term 'Tiger proofing" came from. Imagine the scores now if they left the course the way it was then.

Know why he shot the score he did that year?

He never 3 putted once in 72 holes.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:48 PM
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Anyways, its been fun. Just agree to disagree. Ive been around the game too long and seen enough that nothing anyone says is gonna change my mind.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:55 PM
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Know why he shot the score he did that year?

He never 3 putted once in 72 holes.
Yes, but didn't he hit a pitching wedge into 13 that year. He should have 1 putted most holes..
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:40 PM
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The problem with your argument is Golf Courses are longer now, it is not an accurate representation to use that data.
Some of them are longer yes, but Im telling you, distance off the tee is the single most overrated aspect of the golf game.

I have caddied on the Nationwide Tour and watched guys routinely bomb it 330 and not even blink. But their iron play sucks and so does their putting. More distance off the tee does not equate to making a golfer better.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:53 PM
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Some of them are longer yes, but Im telling you, distance off the tee is the single most overrated aspect of the golf game.

I have caddied on the Nationwide Tour and watched guys routinely bomb it 330 and not even blink. But their iron play sucks and so does their putting. More distance off the tee does not equate to making a golfer better.
I agree with you it is overrated, this is all speculation anyway. I can't get into Tiger's head, all we know is he wants to be the best now and the best all time. If he's clean, he's still the best golfer in the world. And if he's not, then god help them all out there. No one can touch him, not even Jack can.
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