Gotham Stakes

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Never running Beyers like those two threw up.

Henny Hughes never got back from Dubai in time for any consideration and he didn't run again until July at Monmouth of that year. And he ran exclusively as a sprinter.
But no one really knows whether their horse can go the distance or not. Look at Big Brown last year. His breeding never indicated he would be able to go the distance he went. Keyed Entry never ran back to his form after the Hutcheson where he put up a huge Beyer.
But Hard Spun was the most amazing horse to me. A solid sprinter who had the most endurance of any horse I've ever seen.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Henny Hughes never got back from Dubai in time for any consideration and he didn't run again until July at Monmouth of that year. And he ran exclusively as a sprinter.
But no one really knows whether their horse can go the distance or not. Look at Big Brown last year. His breeding never indicated he would be able to go the distance he went. Keyed Entry never ran back to his form after the Hutcheson where he put up a huge Beyer.
But Hard Spun was the most amazing horse to me. A solid sprinter who had the most endurance of any horse I've ever seen.

Where in my posts did you gather that I was suggesting I expect them to stretch out successfully?

Hard Spun had the most endurance of any horse you've ever seen? I take it you haven't seen many horses.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Where in my posts did you gather that I was suggesting I expect them to stretch out successfully?

Hard Spun had the most endurance of any horse you've ever seen? I take it you haven't seen many horses.

Look at his splits in the Derby and see how anyone else in that field finished who tried to stay near him. The name does suit you though.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Look at his splits in the Derby and see how anyone else in that field finished who tried to stay near him. The name does suit you though.

But it was a mistake that my post was in response to your post. I intended it for another post. Sorry to have confused you.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Look at his splits in the Derby and see how anyone else in that field finished who tried to stay near him. The name does suit you though.

Those horses were Stormello, Cowtown Cat, and Teuflesberg. There isn't a scenario in the world short of every horse falling down that any of those three could have been a factor in the Derby. Segdefield wasn't that far back and managed to run the race of his life finishing fifth.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

And was still beaten by Imawildandcrazyguy

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And was still beaten by Imawildandcrazyguy

As was Any Given Saturday

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

As was Any Given Saturday

He was very wide on a good rail track and almost got tko'd on the far turn.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

Look at his splits in the Derby and see how anyone else in that field finished who tried to stay near him. The name does suit you though.

If that's the standard, you might want to consider Congaree's Derby, in what was only his fourth or fifth lifetime start.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If that's the standard, you might want to consider Congaree's Derby, in what was only his fourth or fifth lifetime start.

Or Medaglia d'Oro's BC Classic.

[Bobby Fischer]

Taqarub actually looks pretty strong. A lot of speed in here though.
Changing his style abruptly would negate whatever slim chances he has unless by "rate" he means concede the lead, and press SamePage until he folds just before the turn.

can Prado judge the pace here with Phil ? Theres some danger that Phil could break too well and be close to the pace stretching out.