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Old 02-25-2009, 04:08 PM
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What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:10 PM
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:13 PM
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i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:16 PM
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Is someone having fun with Wikipedia or did he really choose to go by Bobby because he was inspired by Bobby Brady?
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:35 PM
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i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.

It has nothing to do with anything just like his qualifications to be president, I was just going along with the part of the thread saying that people were fooled but that he is not a moron , yet . Thats all, please continue.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:51 PM
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I think Republicans have only two shots to take down Obama in 2012.
If the ecomomy turns into a genuine depression type catastrophe (I'm frankly seeing this as more and more likely), or if they find someone amongst them with real gravitas, real charisma. Its not that hard to come up with a winning message, frankly there was not that much wrong with what Jindal said, its just that he does not inspire and doesn't appear presidential. If Republicans nominate someone like him, which would not be surprising at all, they're doomed again in my view. Maybe he would be a step up from Bush because he is genuinely smart, but its going to take more than that.

since Reagan, Republicans only nominate people that don't communicate that well in speeches or interviews. Bush 41, Dole, Bush43, McCain, none of them what you would call natural speakers, not glib or charismatic.
Bush41 won because he took the handoff from Reagan and I think had only Dukakis to beat, Bush43 won because the Dem's also nominated a similar stiff in Kerry.
now Dem's have a real star with a cult following. forget that there is no substance and that he lies continuously and has accelerated us on the path to economic ruin, those things may or may not matter by the time the next election rolls around. They'll get trounced again if they don't go with someone sharp and dynamic. They need to call up a rookie phenom from the farm team because I don't see anyone that fits the bill out there now.
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Old 02-25-2009, 06:50 PM
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i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...
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i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...
For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.
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Got elected President.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:22 PM
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What was the one thing of substance that Obama did as a senator I forgot?
Got a great deal on a lot next to his mansion so no one would build. A real estate Messiah. Something to do with a guy in jail now.
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