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Old 02-25-2009, 03:49 PM
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Didn't Best Pal take the 93 Hollywood Gold Cup as well? And the 95 San Antonio? I'd give it to Best Pal...Point Given didn't race long enough....Tiznow might deserve it as well....But I want to see Best Pal get this
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:54 PM
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Totally off topic, but how are Point Given, Best Pal, and Tiznow up for the Hall of Fame while Black Tie Affair will never get consideration in about 1,832 years?
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:10 PM
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Totally off topic, but how are Point Given, Best Pal, and Tiznow up for the Hall of Fame while Black Tie Affair will never get consideration in about 1,832 years?
Anytime a horse goes off at 56/1 in the ILL Derby during the 3yo season and 133/1 odds in the Met Mile during there 4-year-old season... there probably not going to sniff the Hall of Fame no matter how many wire-to-wire wins they stack up later on in there career.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:12 PM
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Anytime a horse goes off at 56/1 in the ILL Derby during the 3yo season and 133/1 odds in the Met Mile during there 4-year-old season... there probably not going to sniff the Hall of Fame no matter how many wire-to-wire wins they stack up later on in there career.
That I understand, but his 5YO season was pretty phenomenal.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:16 PM
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are they voting in horses and folks at this point just to have entries into the hall of fame each year? they're possibly not worthy, but hell, we need to have a ceremony?
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:29 PM
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Best Pal is long overdue to get in, just as Manila was last year. He was a Grade I winner at 2, 3, 4, and 5. Who's the last horse to have accomplished that feat? I still vividly remember him winning the inaugural Pacific Classic as a 3YO, defeating Twilight Agenda, Unbridled and others.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:30 PM
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The HOF has been suspect at best. From constantly changing-up the nomination and voting policies, to allowing some very questionable talent in, it seems to have lost its punch versus what the HOF means in other sports.

I respect and truly enjoy steeplechase racing, but when they toss in three or four every other year or whatever it is, it seems lopsided when you compare # of t-breds versus steeplechase horses, and their respective participants.
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:03 PM
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Anytime a horse goes off at 56/1 in the ILL Derby during the 3yo season and 133/1 odds in the Met Mile during there 4-year-old season... there probably not going to sniff the Hall of Fame no matter how many wire-to-wire wins they stack up later on in there career.
By those standards horses like Symie, Seabiscuit and more are unworthy. They ran in low claiming company early on. I don't see BTA getting in to the Hall, but I don't thinbk it's because he wasn't a great 3yo.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:22 PM
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By those standards horses like Symie, Seabiscuit and more are unworthy. They ran in low claiming company early on. I don't see BTA getting in to the Hall, but I don't thinbk it's because he wasn't a great 3yo.
Stymie was never more than 6/1 as a 4yo - Seabiscuit was never more than 6/1 as a 4yo .. Black Tie Affair was 133/1 as a 4yo.

The point was Black Tie Affair isn't going to be a hall of famer just because he piled up a bunch of real nice wire-to-wire wins in one season.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:35 PM
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It's not like Black Tie Affair would be the Catfish Hunter of the Hall if he ever made it. Unbridled, Strike the Gold, and Summer Squall weren't exactly chumps in 1991.
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It's not like Black Tie Affair would be the Catfish Hunter of the Hall if he ever made it. Unbridled, Strike the Gold, and Summer Squall weren't exactly chumps in 1991.
They weren't exactly a who's who of champions either.
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