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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Look no further than last years playoff stats. He stunk it up. He is only effective, imo, when he's headed to the hoop. Cant shoot a high percentage shot for the life of him. He'll wow you about 8-10 games a year, and ruin all chances in the clutch a good portion of games as well. He should be locked up for turning down the deal we offered him last year and getting an extra 30 mil I believe. HORRIBLE investment. I'll ship him to you if and when I ship Cannon his cheesteaks if he takes the playoff bet.

I want the cheesesteaks.

Andre is a great athlete but not a great basketball player. Mike D'antoni system type player. I think Philly screwed up by signing him to a long term contract when I dont know who else was offering him similar money for 7 years.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I want the cheesesteaks.

Andre is a great athlete but not a great basketball player. Mike D'antoni system type player. I think Philly screwed up by signing him to a long term contract when I dont know who else was offering him similar money for 7 years.

Probably noone. Not many teams are that stupid, esp. coming off his laughbale playoff perfomances. Like you said, hes a great athlete. On the run is where he excels, not a player you want if you are trying to implement a set up offense. He can defend, I will give him that. I dont knw why he irks me as much he does, but Im done talking about him. Ive pooped on him enough.

We will hash out a deal come postseason time, granted they make it, which they will.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Probably noone. Not many teams are that stupid, esp. coming off his laughbale playoff perfomances. Like you said, hes a great athlete. On the run is where he excels, not a player you want if you are trying to implement a set up offense. He can defend, I will give him that. I dont knw why he irks me as much he does, but Im done talking about him. Ive pooped on him enough.

We will hash out a deal come postseason time, granted they make it, which they will.

Send a cheesesteak to seal the bet down

[Cannon Shell]

Orlando about to go to 14-4 w/Alston including 9 of 11 with a tough 4 pt loss at Cleveland as one of the losses. Dont seem to miss him too much.

I will admit that McGrady as well has hardly been missed by Houston as they are 16-5 without him with tough losses to SA and LAL as well as 2 to Utah who seems to have their number.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Orlando about to go to 14-4 w/Alston including 9 of 11 with a tough 4 pt loss at Cleveland as one of the losses. Dont seem to miss him too much.

I will admit that McGrady as well has hardly been missed by Houston as they are 16-5 without him with tough losses to SA and LAL as well as 2 to Utah who seems to have their number.

The absence of Jameer has shown me that
Turkeyglue and Rashard Lewis can penetrate
very well on their own thank you.

Alston has not hurt them. Jameer would still be better imo,
but Alston is steady and better on D. It has basically shown
me that I underrated Turkeyglue and Lewis.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The absence of Jameer has shown me that
Turkeyglue and Rashard Lewis can penetrate
very well on their own thank you.

Alston has not hurt them. Jameer would still be better imo,
but Alston is steady and better on D. It has basically shown
me that I underrated Turkeyglue and Lewis.

Yeah and the white elephant in the room is that Van Gundy has done an excellent job after the tried to hire Eddie Munster who probably doesn't get it done at the next level and most certainly as well as fast as Stan the Man.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah and the white elephant in the room is that Van Gundy has done an excellent job after the tried to hire Eddie Munster who probably doesn't get it done at the next level and most certainly as well as fast as Stan the Man.

The Van Gundy's really like basketball so I cant help but
like them. Kinda like Vitale. I will never forget Van Gundy
getting stuck on the bottom of Alonzo Mourning's shoe
and getting drug across the court.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I want the cheesesteaks.

Andre is a great athlete but not a great basketball player. Mike D'antoni system type player. I think Philly screwed up by signing him to a long term contract when I dont know who else was offering him similar money for 7 years.

How do I get in on some cheesesteaks?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

How do I get in on some cheesesteaks?

After the hamburger deal we will cut you in.

[Cannon Shell]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

SCAVS!!!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Fritos!!! That's a great way to get it to 4k...... No bacon?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

SCAVS!!!

That's less than three hours from Scav's house. Multiple casinos, for pit stops, on the way.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43mN...layer_embedded

[King Glorious]

It's interesting how good the Rockets' role players are and how good their coach is. Remember last year when they lost Ming during that winning streak and still ended up winning something like 10-12 more in a row? This year, they lose McGrady and don't miss a beat. They are very well coached and the guys know their roles. They key, I think, is that nobody tries to step in and fill the role McGrady left. Also, the team plays with more cohesion once he's not in the game. The ball doesn't stop as often and the offense is much more free-flowing. It's also correct that Artest handles the #2 role better than McGrady does.

To say whether they are better with or without McGrady is difficult. They probably get just as far in the playoffs in either scenario. I think that they might be a better regular season team without him. But in the playoffs, he'd help them big time. When you are playing a team 4-7 games in a row, all of the scouting will be done. Teams know what you want to run and know defensively how to take that away from you. What you really need is a guy that can create his own shot and that draws attention. McGrady is the only guy they have that can do that consistently.

I think that the rap he's taken over his career has been unfair. When healthy, he's been one of the best all-around offensive players we've seen in the last decade. I feel like he's right on par with guys like Wade and Bryant when it comes to his ability to score, rebound, pass, and lead an offense. It's just unfortunate that he's so damn brittle and seemingly a little mentally weak.