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Old 02-23-2009, 12:07 PM
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Yeah

Now if we could only get that track straightened out again.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:01 PM
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The Gotham and then Wood are a terrific test for a 3 year old
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:08 PM
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I would guess that Gulfstream's decision to cut the FOY to a one-turn mile has something to do with the better field
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:10 PM
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I would guess that Gulfstream's decision to cut the FOY to a one-turn mile has something to do with the better field
Why is that? The Fountain of Youth is going to be stacked to the gills.
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Why is that? The Fountain of Youth is going to be stacked to the gills.
Well, Imperial Council for one is likely leaving town in search of a two-turn race.
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Well, Imperial Council for one is likely leaving town in search of a two-turn race.
....and probably the extra time too, now that I think about it.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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Well, Imperial Council for one is likely leaving town in search of a two-turn race.
Hasn't Shug always used the Gotham and then Wood.. All of his stock moves once the weather breaks some heading to Keeneland but the colts seem to always go to Belmont right?
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:19 PM
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Why is that? The Fountain of Youth is going to be stacked to the gills.
sure the FOY is stacked, but aren't some trainers going to be looking for TWO TURN races to prep with? at least 3 of the 5 horses the OP listed were based at GP
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:32 PM
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Why is that? The Fountain of Youth is going to be stacked to the gills.
Steve it seems to be a horrible year for colts... Stacked implies quality not quanity
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:37 PM
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sure the FOY is stacked, but aren't some trainers going to be looking for TWO TURN races to prep with? at least 3 of the 5 horses the OP listed were based at GP
They seem to care less and less. A 8f one turn March 1 to a 9f start in early April to 10f in early May... The late-developing Curlin/Big Brown style 'career' arc may be the 'new' Derby approach.

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Steve it seems to be a horrible year for colts... Stacked implies quality not quanity
You're 100% right Freddy..
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You're 100% right Freddy..
Really? I think this year's Fountain of Youth is the best Derby prep being run in years, and the Gotham looks very strong as well. I'm not sure what the hell has to happen for people to stop that yearly "this crop sucks!" call. Last year's colt crop was terrible, but people were saying the crop was terrible around this time in '07 too. I think this has the makings of a very good crop of three-year-olds. What's the knock? I don't get it. We have brilliance (Notonthesamepage, This Ones For Phil, Quality Road, Mr. Fantasy, Dunkirk), consistency (Haynesfield, Old Fashioned, Friesan Fire) and a bunch of horses that could be anything (pretty much everyone in the FOY, Santana Six, Imperial Council, etc.), not to mention the Dubai horses if they ever get over here.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:38 PM
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The Fountain of Youth may feature a list of sprinters masquerading as Derby horses, but it is still a deep field with a number of accomplished horses.

I actually think the prospective field for the Gotham speaks more to the depth in NY that hasn't existed in years past. Who was the leading NY based runner right now in 2008? Giant Moon? OK. Haynesfield and Mr. Fantasy might not be much but they were certainly better than Giant Moon (whose biggest accomplishment was really dominating Spanky Fischbein).

The Fla shippers that are headed up hail from a NY barn (Imperial Council) or from a trainer that has a number of contenders (Danger to Society) or from a California based trainer in search of conventional dirt.

There might not be a standout this year and since it's become so cool/easy to bash the 3YOs its the same old tune in '09 but this bunch is significantly more interesting than last year's class, for what that's worth.

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