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Old 02-23-2009, 08:45 AM
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Obviously will have you expound on this today on ATR as part of the Dunkirk/3y.o. conversation, but is it possible they are STILL having timer and/or run-up distance issues at Gulfstream??
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:54 AM
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Obviously will have you expound on this today on ATR as part of the Dunkirk/3y.o. conversation, but is it possible they are STILL having timer and/or run-up distance issues at Gulfstream??
Only for Dutrow and Marty Wolfsons races.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:01 AM
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Side note... Kelly Leak, who was third in the This Ones for Phil SunMill race, came back to win a grass mile impressively yesterday at SA.. 1:35.0.
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Winning a turf race, when we are discussing a dirt race, reinforces what?
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:21 AM
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Byk is just trying to support overall theory that a lot of good horses ran that day(now why would a lot of good horses be racing at GP in the winter???) and that they are good on either coast and on both grass and dirt... Thanks DrugS you are really proving yourself to be quite the long term thinker.. And to think you could be doing this for a living soon.. Instead of Trips and Traps... We can call your show on DT as Dribs and Drabs... Sponsored by?
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:21 AM
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Winning a turf race, when we are discussing a dirt race, reinforces what?
Absolutely nothing. As stated, was just a 'side note' that Kelly Leak ran back yesterday in a grass mile and ran well.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:34 AM
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I figure the points of the post ( other than the usual DrugS scream " Look at me.....I'm smart! " ) are mainly that the two horses questioned by Beyer could only have run " better " than some thought and certainly not worse......and that, as usual, the times at Gulfstream are perplexing for whatever reasons. Is it the timer? Probably not, as those problems are usually confined to the turf, but let's not forget last year's FOY debacle. Is it the track super? Always possible I suppose. Is it runup related? Not sure how that should dramatically affect final time but I suppose if they are perversely changing those during the day it is entirely possible.

Whatever the case, it was clear to anyone paying attention that the horses to take out of Dunkirk's race were the pacesetters. I just hope DrugS bet Zegfield. I know I did.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:48 AM
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Point of comparison for 7f races the days leading up to and after the Sunshine card..



1/17:

1:24.24 $25k S/ALW (Cuba 92 BSF)
1:24.57 $35k/N3L (Ode to Roy 88 BSF)


1/21:

1:25.53 S/ALW 3yo-F (East to Eden 76 BSF)


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2/24:

1:25.0 MSW (Dunkirk 78)
1:09.10 (6f) SM Dash (This One's for Phil 116)

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1/25:

1:23.97 $30k MDN CLM 3yo (Todd Got Even 85 BSF)


1/28:

1:24.63 $6250 CLM (Early Release 79 BSF)


1/30:

1:24.15 Forward Gal (Frolic's Dream 95 BSF)
1:23.69 Hutcheson (Capt. Candyman Can 101 BSF)
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I figure the points of the post ( other than the usual DrugS scream " Look at me.....I'm smart! " )
I just felt a little heartened this morning when I saw that two horses I overrated for a brief point last year -Georgie Boy and Spring House - had the #1 and #2 stories on the DRF's website for a pair of Grade 2 stakes wins over the weekend.
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