Don't think this is what WE had in mind...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Oh come on..Obama and Clinton are open season but the last 8 years and their leader...are off limits?? That's crazy Chuck

I never said that Bush was off limits. I just said that more often than not he is the main or only reply to a question or inquiry about Democrats or liberals. It is pretty consistent in this and other boards that most of the posters that dont agree with something that is said about democrats, liberals or their policies slam Bush as opposed to backing their reasoning why the original post was not correct.

here is a typical Q & A

Conservative - Obama's stimlus package is not goign to work because it is way more govt spending on social issues than it is on true economic stimlus.

Liberal - Yeah Bush sucks

Conservative - The "Fairness Doctrine" is an outdated piece of trash legistalion that is not only biased against one form of media, it is bad economic policy for the struggling radio industry.

Liberal - Bush is a war criminal and Cheney is the devil

Conservative - The housing 'bailout' is going to reward the people who least deserve the help and may wind up making the issues worse while wasting hundreds of billions of dollars.

Liberal - Bush and his greedy CEO buddies are criminals

[Danzig]

speaking of the 'fairness doctrine', i read again a couple days ago that obama is against it.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of the 'fairness doctrine', i read again a couple days ago that obama is against it.

It appears that the pressure will be brought to bear on the TV stations(by right of ownership)...The ole bait and switch.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

speaking of the 'fairness doctrine', i read again a couple days ago that obama is against it.

As it is currently called. Wait and see when it is reintroduced later and called something else.

He is also against the other insane "truth" crap about investigating Bush being talked about by the far left. No doubt he doesnt want that used against him when he is out of office as opposed to any great love for George, Dick and the gang.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As it is currently called. Wait and see when it is reintroduced later and called something else.

He is also against the other insane "truth" crap about investigating Bush being talked about by the far left. No doubt he doesnt want that used against him when he is out of office as opposed to any great love for George, Dick and the gang.

he's no dummy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I never said that Bush was off limits. I just said that more often than not he is the main or only reply to a question or inquiry about Democrats or liberals. It is pretty consistent in this and other boards that most of the posters that dont agree with something that is said about democrats, liberals or their policies slam Bush as opposed to backing their reasoning why the original post was not correct.

here is a typical Q & A

Conservative - Obama's stimlus package is not goign to work because it is way more govt spending on social issues than it is on true economic stimlus.

Liberal - Yeah Bush sucks

Conservative - The "Fairness Doctrine" is an outdated piece of trash legistalion that is not only biased against one form of media, it is bad economic policy for the struggling radio industry.

Liberal - Bush is a war criminal and Cheney is the devil

Conservative - The housing 'bailout' is going to reward the people who least deserve the help and may wind up making the issues worse while wasting hundreds of billions of dollars.

Liberal - Bush and his greedy CEO buddies are criminals

it seems tho that both 'sides' engage in that type of supposed debate. too many folks are party first. anything their party does is a-ok, the other party is the spawn of the devil.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it seems tho that both 'sides' engage in that type of supposed debate. too many folks are party first. anything their party does is a-ok, the other party is the spawn of the devil.

Contrary to popular belief....I'm not happy with the Republicans either!
...but you're right...Liberals are spawns of the Devil!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Contrary to popular belief....I'm not happy with the Republicans either!
...but you're right...Liberals are spawns of the Devil!

it's funny you mention that...it always cracks me up when i post something that gets agreed with, and i'm soooo smart. but then i post something, and those same folks (and you do this timmi, you know it) are suddenly on the attack, and i'm sooo dumb. hilarious.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's funny you mention that...it always cracks me up when i post something that gets agreed with, and i'm soooo smart. but then i post something, and those same folks (and you do this timmi, you know it) are suddenly on the attack, and i'm sooo dumb. hilarious.

Ziggy: For some reason here, posters apparently are scrutinized with a complete background check and all previous posts are scanned for political uses. I agree with you, and I sometimes disagree with you. I don't think that a persons' brainpower rises and lowers with a thread or post.
After all....this is a forum for discussion...hopefully not just for rants!

ps.....can you hear me now??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it seems tho that both 'sides' engage in that type of supposed debate. too many folks are party first. anything their party does is a-ok, the other party is the spawn of the devil.

Hell even the opinion pieces in liberal leaning papers and mags do a whole lot more complaining about Bush than they do about the economic reality. They also are almost universally koolaid drinkers who feel that anyone who doesnt agree with the stimlus is just trying to 'sabotage' the economy as oppose to lookng at the issues that are raised.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hell even the opinion pieces in liberal leaning papers and mags do a whole lot more complaining about Bush than they do about the economic reality. They also are almost universally koolaid drinkers who feel that anyone who doesnt agree with the stimlus is just trying to 'sabotage' the economy as oppose to lookng at the issues that are raised.

very true. it's funny tho, many of the more liberal papers took huge issue with bushes 'with us or against us' mantra (which they should have) but they then do exactly what you stated above.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I never said that Bush was off limits. I just said that more often than not he is the main or only reply to a question or inquiry about Democrats or liberals. It is pretty consistent in this and other boards that most of the posters that dont agree with something that is said about democrats, liberals or their policies slam Bush as opposed to backing their reasoning why the original post was not correct.

here is a typical Q & A

Conservative - Obama's stimlus package is not goign to work because it is way more govt spending on social issues than it is on true economic stimlus.

Liberal - Yeah Bush sucks

Conservative - The "Fairness Doctrine" is an outdated piece of trash legistalion that is not only biased against one form of media, it is bad economic policy for the struggling radio industry.

Liberal - Bush is a war criminal and Cheney is the devil

Conservative - The housing 'bailout' is going to reward the people who least deserve the help and may wind up making the issues worse while wasting hundreds of billions of dollars.

Liberal - Bush and his greedy CEO buddies are criminals

When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by GBBob

When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.

Give him some time. He hasn't had enough time in office to phuck it up, but I'm sure he will. We elected a man into office that really had no leadership experience whatsoever ... IMO that will be his biggest downfall and that inexperience will rear its ugly head at some point.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Give him some time. He hasn't had enough time in office to phuck it up, but I'm sure he will. We elected a man into office that really had no leadership experience whatsoever ... IMO that will be his biggest downfall and that inexperience will rear its ugly head at some point.

I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.

You do?

Clinton had much more experience than this guy.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

When talking about a politican ... I think experience is something overrated anyway. Kind of like the longer they've been around the more likely they become to be seduced by greed and temptations. Leadership is also very overrated imo.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

When talking about a politican ... I think experience is something overrated anyway. Kind of like the longer they've been around the more likely they become to be seduced by greed and temptations. Leadership is also very overrated imo.

Or covering your ass which seems like what Obama is doing by bailing out Freddie and Fannie.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.

with the help of newt

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.

I think that this post about sums up what I am talking about. We arent talking about Limbaugh or Olberman, we are talking about what gets posted here.

The right has hardly spewed negativity towards Obama directly. Despite your claims, the right has been so concerned with the 'stimlus' and now the housing farce that the Obama administration has almost gotten a pass for poor job it has done in vetting its appointments. Your second paragraph absolutely sums up why liberals are sticking their heads in the sand on the issues. The absolute hatred of Bush overcomes all reasonable thinking.

The issues at hand are not being debated, just Bush, Bush, Bush. And that is simply tedious. If you cant debate the issues, blame Bush. If you can debate the issues and use things that Bush did wrong then more power to you.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Despite your claims, the right has been so concerned with the 'stimlus' and now the housing farce that the Obama administration has almost gotten a pass for poor job it has done in vetting its appointments. Your second paragraph absolutely sums up why liberals are sticking their heads in the sand on the issues. The absolute hatred of Bush overcomes all reasonable thinking.

Cannon, you can still dislike Obama's appointments and housing farce and hate Bush. Try it sometime.