ahh..the good ole days..

AeWingnut · #1 02-17-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

um yes, she was outted. her name was released in an article by robert novak, remember? now, joe wilson might be wrong or right about why she was named-i don't know if it was retribution as he says, but she most certainly was outted.

she wasn't covert

Danzig · #2 02-17-2009, 05:42 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...eyPlayers.html

On Oct. 28, 2005, a grand jury handed down a five-count indictment in the 22-month-long investigation into whether White House officials illegally leaked the identity of Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent...

Danzig · #3 02-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

she wasn't covert

btw, this is your defense on giving out the name of someone who probably should be able, and would expect, to remain anonymous? even if you want to argue semantics on whether she was 'covert' or not, she most certainly was 'classified'. politics should not be a reason to play games with peoples' lives-there was no reason to treat someone who has served their country in so cavalier a manner. they played politics with a woman who had every reason, every expectation, that no one would ever know who she was-or where she worked.

hi_im_god · #4 02-17-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

she wasn't covert

she was involved with a shell company the cia set up to make connections with people that might want to sell or obtain components for wmd's. that's the way real intelligence works.

the entire operation was exposed with her.

how was it not covert?

why is she a traitor for being exposed but those that did it aren't?

AeWingnut · #5 02-17-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

she was involved with a shell company the cia set up to make connections with people that might want to sell or obtain components for wmd's. that's the way real intelligence works.

the entire operation was exposed with her.

how was it not covert?

why is she a traitor for being exposed but those that did it aren't?

she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

hi_im_god · #6 02-17-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

i'm interested. can you stretch your point out?

what exactly are you saying?

GBBob · #7 02-17-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

she wasn't working for any of that
at least not sincerely

This has to be Clinton's fault somehow...make it happen

Cannon Shell · #8 02-17-2009, 08:33 PM

You Steve Carltons refuse to debate the "stimlus" but are going to talk about issues of national security? When your party has considered bringing charges against CIA agents who were actually doing something productive but perhaps a little too messy for the utopian vision of the world that you all seem to have? I'd rather be "outed" by the Republicans than prosecuted by the Democrats for doing my job.

hi_im_god · #9 02-17-2009, 08:47 PM

chuck-

i'm having a wtf moment. steve carlton?

the pitcher?

i'll debate stimulus, the efficacy of torture as a method to extract actionable information, or anything else.

but that reference went over my head.

Smooth Operator · #10 02-17-2009, 09:01 PM

Lefty, eh

Cannon Shell · #11 02-17-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

chuck-

i'm having a wtf moment. steve carlton?

the pitcher?

i'll debate stimulus, the efficacy of torture as a method to extract actionable information, or anything else.

but that reference went over my head.

Despite the theories to the contrary, it has worked pretty well for thousands of years. My wife has perfected the art. And if SO broke the code before you did then i have nothing more to say to you.

Danzig · #12 02-17-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You Steve Carltons refuse to debate the "stimlus" but are going to talk about issues of national security? When your party has considered bringing charges against CIA agents who were actually doing something productive but perhaps a little too messy for the utopian vision of the world that you all seem to have? I'd rather be "outed" by the Republicans than prosecuted by the Democrats for doing my job.

i would prefer neither of those things. secret agent men shouldn't have to worry about what party is in power, or which way the wind is blowing politically...

Cannon Shell · #13 02-18-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i would prefer neither of those things. secret agent men shouldn't have to worry about what party is in power, or which way the wind is blowing politically...

Absolutely. However the irony of democrats hand wringing over the treatment of a CIA agent when many of them want to prosecute agents (for doing what their jobs required) is telling.