2/16 (OP): Southwest S. (Gr. III)

[ateamstupid]

DrugS is right, the stretch at OP is on a slight decline.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

DrugS is right, the stretch at OP is on a slight decline.

yes, some of the trash Randy Moss witnessed flowing down the hill at Oaklawn most assuredly contained some of Drugs clever losing tickets.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Such as back wheeling Kissin Kris in an exacta but missing the 2K gimmick by tossing out 100/1 shot Rockamundo because not even the great combo of OJ Glass Jr./Borel team could get him home in the top 7.

[pick4]

Old Fashioned ran a very strong race this afternoon. He showed his class by running Silver City's game. He pressed stroong fractions and blew past him and won by over 3 lengths.

It was the horses first race in three months and if there was a race he could be vulnerable this was it. I think we have a legit Derby favorite. If he matures during the next few months he's a horse that perhaps we can get excited about in the TC races.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pick4

Old Fashioned ran a very strong race this afternoon. He showed his class by running Silver City's game. He pressed stroong fractions and blew past him and won by over 3 lengths.

It was the horses first race in three months and if there was a race he could be vulnerable this was it. I think we have a legit Derby favorite. If he matures during the next few months he's a horse that perhaps we can get excited about in the TC races.

The Fountain of Youth will do a lot more for determining the Derby favorite than today's race did. The way that field is shaping up, people would be insane to take Old Fashioned over anything more than a nose winner of the FOY. As for him being a Triple Crown possibility, even if he's good enough, he's by Unbridled's Song. To me, every start with a US three-year-old is like Russian Roulette. He's got a LONG way to go.

[pick4]

The Derby is a long ways out. Everything will sort itself out during the next few months. I think Old Fashioned is a serious racehorse. But I'm looking forward to seeing Hello Broadway run two turns as I think he has talent and will improve with natural maturation and running long. Danger To Society ran a clunker in the Holy Bull but he ran well prior to that debacle. He wouldn't be the first horse to run a dud and come back to make his mark on the Derby Trail.

Who's running in the FOY?
http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...tch_021309.pdf

According to Privman/Watchmaker Derby Watch Capt Candy Man,This One's for Phil, Beethoven, West Side Bernie are running.

Should be an interesting race.

[lostcode]

Why is IP behind. Old FAsioned has 4 races. IP has 3. Both have one race this year. IC has had 8 works since Dec 31. He Rac 6.5 and 7 furlongs a 2 year old. Old Fashioned had 6 furlong a mile race and Remson. Last year Big Brown did not run until March 7th.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pick4

The Derby is a long ways out. Everything will sort itself out during the next few months. I think Old Fashioned is a serious racehorse. But I'm looking forward to seeing Hello Broadway run two turns as I think he has talent and will improve with natural maturation and running long. Danger To Society ran a clunker in the Holy Bull but he ran well prior to that debacle. He wouldn't be the first horse to run a dud and come back to make his mark on the Derby Trail.
Who's running in the FOY?
http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...tch_021309.pdf

According to Privman/Watchmaker Derby Watch Capt Candy Man,This One's for Phil, Beethoven, West Side Bernie are running.

Should be an interesting race.

now that is true. i remember when a certain horse ran a clunker, the trainer explained why the horse ran badly, and was attacked by many. yeah, sure, he had a lung infection....
afleet alex came back well from that debacle...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pick4

Who's running in the FOY?
http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...tch_021309.pdf

According to Privman/Watchmaker Derby Watch Capt Candy Man,This One's for Phil, Beethoven, West Side Bernie are running.

Should be an interesting race.

Quality Road, Capt. Candyman Can, Notonthesamepage, This Ones For Phil, Beethoven, Theregoesjojo, Taqarub, Break Water Edison and Jack Spratt.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Fountain of Youth will do a lot more for determining the Derby favorite than today's race did. The way that field is shaping up, people would be insane to take Old Fashioned over anything more than a nose winner of the FOY. As for him being a Triple Crown possibility, even if he's good enough, he's by Unbridled's Song. To me, every start with a US three-year-old is like Russian Roulette. He's got a LONG way to go.

So if Notonthesamepage or Taqarub wins a one-turn mile by a length, you would take that horse over Old Fashioned?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

So if Notonthesamepage or Taqarub wins a one-turn mile by a length, you would take that horse over Old Fashioned?

Possibly. Old Fashioned may be more "accomplished," but if anyone wins the FOY with any kind of authority, that horse will rightfully get bet hard. Calling OF a legit Derby favorite is premature is what I'm saying. We don't yet know if he's legit or the favorite.