Can RoundPound beat Fleet Indian ??

Originally Posted by TogaJunkie

Lets hope these two hook up in the distaff.

My question for you. Your opnion who wins this ?

I am crossing my fingers no problems come up in the near future, because I am dying to see these two go at it.

Won't hapeen. Fleet Indian is going to be sold in November. I highly doubt that she runs in the Breeders Cup Distaff.

However, if they did face off in the Distaff, I wouldnt bet either one of them to win. I would prob go with a closer like Balleto. There would be way too much speed in that race for Fleet Indian to go wire to wire and I dont think Round Pound is good enough.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Won't hapeen. Fleet Indian is going to be sold in November. I highly doubt that she runs in the Breeders Cup Distaff.

However, if they did face off in the Distaff, I wouldnt bet either one of them to win. I would prob go with a closer like Balleto. There would be way too much speed in that race for Fleet Indian to go wire to wire and I dont think Round Pound is good enough.

Of course shes running in the distaff!!! That sale is after the BC for a reason, because the year is basically done and sellers are gambling that they can get top bucks. Geez Euro wake up!! last year Ashado was announced as being sold in the same sale and she still ran in the BC. What sense does it make to pass up that kinda loot and possibly double the sales value of the horse? Shes running if she has all 4 legs that day.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Of course shes running in the distaff!!! That sale is after the BC for a reason, because the year is basically done and sellers are gambling that they can get top bucks. Geez Euro wake up!! last year Ashado was announced as being sold in the same sale and she still ran in the BC. What sense does it make to pass up that kinda loot and possibly double the sales value of the horse? Shes running if she has all 4 legs that day.

I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.

Thanks for that Euro, you better let Todd and the owners know pronto because he says that they are shooting for the BC and a possible championship, LOL!! Noone turns down a lottery ticket like that. Shes a grade one winner and worth a locked in 2.5 mill easily no matter what she does now(thats the incredible bottom going rate for a grade one winning filly on the dirt, can you believe this bloodstock market?). They can double or triple her value if she wins the BCC and teh championshop and pick up another mill or more in purse money if she wins the race. Oh, by the way, she has to be shipped to Kentucky for the sale, thats where CD happens to be. If you are gonna ship for a November sale an hour away from where they run a zillion dollar race where you are gonna be one of the faves in, you usually consider the premise, lol. Shes not a colt Euro, her value can't go any lower, its locked in.

[Gander]

She certainly has improved since Pletcher took her. Not that she was chopped liver before that, but her improvement is crazy good. That race the other day at Saratoga was a total joke. I saw harness races later on in the evening more entertaining than that.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thanks for that Euro, you better let Todd and the owners know pronto because he says that they are shooting for the BC and a possible championship, LOL!! Noone turns down a lottery ticket like that. Shes a grade one winner and worth a locked in 2.5 mill easily no matter what she does now(thats the incredible bottom going rate for a grade one winning filly on the dirt, can you believe this bloodstock market?). They can double or triple her value if she wins the BCC and teh championshop and pick up another mill or more in purse money if she wins the race. Oh, by the way, she has to be shipped to Kentucky for the sale, thats where CD happens to be. If you are gonna ship for a November sale an hour away from where they run a zillion dollar race where you are gonna be one of the faves in, you usually consider the premise, lol. Shes not a colt Euro, her value can't go any lower, its locked in.

I know the value is locked in, but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point. I don't care what Pletcher says or does. We all know you cant believe a trainer in this game. I still think it is 60-40 she doesnt race. And she will go for more than $2.5.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know the value is locked in, but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point. I don't care what Pletcher says or does. We all know you cant believe a trainer in this game. I still think it is 60-40 she doesnt race. And she will go for more than $2.5.

Euro you are being stubborn and obviously don't understand the bloodstock side of the game. Shes insured Euro, geez. If she goes down they still get the cash. Other than that they only have UPSIDE! Colts and horses can diminish in stud value with bad efforts, mares don't. Shoot once theyw in a grade one the first thing you do is call the bloodstock insurance agent and raise the value of the insurance.
Umm, you seeing the point?

[Buffymommy]

I'm with Sightseek. Pine Island.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Euro you are being stubborn and obviously don't understand the bloodstock side of the game. Shes insured Euro, geez. If she goes down they still get the cash. Other than that they only have UPSIDE! Colts and horses can diminish in stud value with bad efforts, mares don't. Shoot once theyw in a grade one the first thing you do is call the bloodstock insurance agent and raise the value of the insurance.
Umm, you seeing the point?

I know all of this. I own horses which you dont so I know about the insurance. I am not going to debate you on this as you cant tell me something that I already dont know. I just have a feeling she wont being going in the Distaff. That is all, plain and simple.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know the value is locked in, but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point. I don't care what Pletcher says or does. We all know you cant believe a trainer in this game. I still think it is 60-40 she doesnt race. And she will go for more than $2.5.

if she injures herself and gets put down, no sale...not enough reason not to run, that's what insurance is for! certainly that line of thinking didn't keep ashado out of the sale.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.

based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?

Originally Posted by Danzig188

based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?

Again, it is a feeling. We will just wait and see.

[Danzig]

i don't know that i'd get in a two page argument over just a feeling, but that's just me.


i can't believe everyone is getting on pine island! lol no doubt shugs sleeper success last year has something to do with it. her second-itis no doubt is from going against the top of the crop so quickly, third time was her charm.

ought to be plenty of pace for her to run at late.

i was on her for her stakes debut, and have enjoyed watching her progress. she's a legit threat for nov 4.

[Gander]

Fleet Indian isnt the only nice horse Santos rides. Are you forgetting about War Front? Somehow he has earned himself the regular jockey of this very promising sprinter from the Chief.