I would Support Obama if

[dellinger63]

Total federal and state spending on welfare programs was $434 billion in FY 2000. Of that total, $313 billion (72 percent) came from federal funding and $121 billion (28 percent) came from state or local funds. (See Chart 1.)

Welfare spending is so large it is difficult to comprehend. On average, the annual cost of the welfare system amounts to around $5,600 in taxes from each household that paid federal income tax in 2000. Adjusting for inflation, the amount taxpayers now spend on welfare each year is greater than the value of the entire U.S. Gross National Product at the beginning of the 20th century.


http://www.heritage.org/Research/welfare/Test080101.cfm

[Danzig]

so, you reference stuff from '00 (don't forget congress writes the budget, not the prez) and you're saying you'd support obama if not for this? i didn't know obama was the president in 2000.

like i said elsewhere, local and state govt is your first place to look at. domestically, look at congress. the president is the wrong person to place blame, or give credit to. all he can do is ask for bills and then hope they write a good bill, without a lot of extra pork garbage in it.

and that's why there should be a line item veto. then, the president isn't forced to sign a bill full of garbage just so he can get the necessary parts.

[Danzig]

also---the feds subsidize the states, but isn't it up to the state to send the money where needed? to spend the money properly?

[dellinger63]

It's all a scam. And reiterates my point that I'm not anti-Obama but anti-government hence me quoting 2000 stats. Want to bet the percentage grows in the next 3 years and 49 weeks?

[dellinger63]

and the only thing I can really blame Obama for is not pursuing his illegal Auntie who's been living off the Gov and shouldn't even be here! He wants us to take care of everything under the sun but can't throw this lady a few bucks?

[Danzig]

what i think is a waste-those coupons to get people converter boxes since tv is going digital.
it's my job to make sure some guy with an obsolete set keeps his signal? we're paying for that-it's ridiculous.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It's all a scam. And reiterates my point that I'm not anti-Obama but anti-government hence me quoting 2000 stats. Want to bet the percentage grows in the next 3 years and 49 weeks?

people might think that were the case had you been railing on here for months about how things were going; but it seems your attacks on govt only began when obama got elected.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

people might think that were the case had you been railing on here for months about how things were going; but it seems your attacks on govt only began when obama got elected.

you're right the stimulus package is just a front for me to attack

F.uck poor people and the assholes who feel sorry for them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

people might think that were the case had you been railing on here for months about how things were going; but it seems your attacks on govt only began when obama got elected.

remember this thread I started?

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27259

or this one?

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26771

and lastly this one

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26142

Now show me where I am anti-Obama just for the sake of being Anti-Obama

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

remember this thread I started?

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27259

or this one?

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26771

and lastly this one

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26142

Now show me where I am anti-Obama just for the sake of being Anti-Obama

three threads-sorry, i clicked on one and it said i wasn't signed in, so i don't know what they were or when--but you've started more than that in the last week or two, haven't you? it just seems that you've become far more active recently than in the past. i apologize if my perception is incorrect.

[timmgirvan]

I MIGHT give Obama a 'wink of approval' if he sends this bill back to Congress
for further revision! Course...since he's screaming for something to sign..that probably won't happen.

Just curious...will we have Another stimulus bill soon to fix the problems with this one?

[steve]

what happens when someone who works all of their life gets ill and still needs to support a family?who cares? and what if it were you? can i say **** off then? And the if you need health care the money that you worked for all your life gets tossed to pay for it.