This Upsets Me, What About You?

[paisjpq]

Jessica--I completely agree with your opinion here and your point is well made.

You should post it under it's own thread as I am sure it would invoke the ire of one bold B.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Jessica--I completely agree with your opinion here and your point is well made.

You should post it under it's own thread as I am sure it would invoke the ire of one bold B.

Thanks. Should I post it under Paddock or under off topic? I won't be able to get into a debate about it tonight because I have to go to VA, but I'll be back on here tomorrow.

[PeteMugg]

Jessica, that's a good post. And I would never want to keep anyone from a good education. But a totally free ride isn't the answer. Or do you think everything is just swell down in Cuba? There's a lot to be said for good faith money. You will put greater value on an education you've worked for over an education that was just handed to you. There is a middle ground that will be the most beneficial.

[AeWingnut]

Cuba is paradise... that is why so many people are getting on little make shift rafts and leaving Florida to get there.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Cuba is paradise... that is why so many people are getting on little make shift rafts and leaving Florida to get there.

funny.

I guess I should have clarified when I said that I agreed with her that I like the ideas behind it, NOT that cuba and it's dictatorship is the way to go. Socialist/communist states allow access to free education but do not offer an unbiased education. The difference is important.

still it's a good post.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

funny.

I guess I should have clarified when I said that I agreed with her that I like the ideas behind it, NOT that cuba and it's dictatorship is the way to go. Socialist/communist states allow access to free education but do not offer an unbiased education. The difference is important.

still it's a good post.

Marx's theory explains how all capitalist countries eventually turn into socialists countries. It's something that you all should look up if you don't already know about it. I don't have time to get into it because I have to go. Good night everyone. Some good points have been made by everyone!

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Marx's theory explains how all capitalist countries eventually turn into socialists countries. It's something that you all should look up if you don't already know about it. I don't have time to get into it because I have to go. Good night everyone. Some good points have been made by everyone!

i've read it, thanks.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

i've read it, thanks.

I figured that most have. One last question: Do you think that I implied that the U.S. should be like Cuba in my post? If so, I didn't mean it that way. I just thought that it enhanced my arguement.

Did you know that if you go to Cuba and sell anything (even an aspirin) to them...you could go to prison and pay enormous fines? Why is that? I'm directing that at everyone Pais, not just you. I want to know because I don't know why the U.S. put an economic blockade on them.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Cuba is paradise... that is why so many people are getting on little make shift rafts and leaving Florida to get there.

Where did I imply that the U.S. should be like Cuba? I just stated that they were a poor economic country who had free education. They are a dictatorship for christ sakes. The fact was used to make a point.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by PeteMugg

Jessica, that's a good post. And I would never want to keep anyone from a good education. But a totally free ride isn't the answer. Or do you think everything is just swell down in Cuba? There's a lot to be said for good faith money. You will put greater value on an education you've worked for over an education that was just handed to you. There is a middle ground that will be the most beneficial.

Then why do people make As in free public schools? The people who are going to try are going to try and the people who aren't just simply aren't. You have to work for an education anyway. If you don't, you fail. If you fail, you don't get the degree. I work and take five classes. I have bills to pay. It is very hard, and my learning is often inhibited because of my work. I am not eligible for government money because my parents make too much. I can't go to the schools I want to. Nope, no Harvard or Duke for me. Luckily, I've gotten private scholarships. It is the only way that I am making it. There are tons of people who aren't. If your parent is a nurse who makes an average of about 40,000 a year, you can't get Pell Grants. The household income for being eligible for money is very, very low. You have to be dirt poor in order to receive one. There are tons of people who would love to go to college, but can't afford it. One of my friends got turned down for a Pell Grant, and so she had to keep working.

No, not everything is swell in Cuba. The U.S. has had an economic blockade on Cuba for decades because Cubais a big threat to us. Their taxes are high and their property is high, but education and health coverage are free. Their literacy rate is 99%. Ours is 92%. I agree that the way Cuba does things wouldn't work here in the U.S. and that the U.S. is a better country overall. For one we are a democracy. Yet, the U.S. may could learn a few things from Cuba. I never implied that we should be like Cuba. I just stated the fact that they have free education and high taxes.