Andy Beyer, Dutrow, DRF

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Originally Posted by Cardus

That's a little over the top, don't you think? The suspicions posted here encompass a few trainers, hardly "everyone is cheating."

I'm talking of the general way I hear most horseplayers talk about trainers and cheating - this trainer has alot of drug overages and is on the bad list, that trainer has alot but the public never mentions him, the next trainer has nothing but is widely thought of as being an unquestioned and absolute cheat.

Here's another question that will probably cause a huge dustup: can anybody's speed figures accurately identify drug using trainers, when the figures are educated assessments of performance, not really stand-alone and merely reported data points?