College Basketball Thread - Page 2

ateamstupid · #21 01-29-2009, 12:30 PM

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No way they get 7 unless they start knocking off the teams in their own league. Arizona, Stanford, and Washington St should all wind up around 8-10 or 7-11 in league so while one may step up and grab a 6th bid I can't see two stepping up and finishing .500 or better in league. And even if that happens it could be at the expense of USC. Seven would be a huge stretch. The Big Ten has a much better shot at 7.

You're probably right, though I don't think the Big 11 gets more than 5 either, and may only get 4. MSU, Purdue, Illinois and Minnesota are the only locks. What other three will go? Wisconsin is done, Penn State and Northwestern have no chance. Ohio State is the only other team I could see going from the Big 11.

I still say 5-6 teams from the Pac-10 would be a very good year, and no one's talking about it.

SniperSB23 · #22 01-29-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're probably right, though I don't think the Big 11 gets more than 5 either, and may only get 4. MSU, Purdue, Illinois and Minnesota are the only locks. What other three will go? Wisconsin is done, Penn State and Northwestern have no chance. Ohio State is the only other team I could see going from the Big 11.

I still say 5-6 teams from the Pac-10 would be a very good year, and no one's talking about it.

Ohio St is a lock at 9-9 in league. Did Wisconsin have a major injury or are you just saying they are done at 3-5 league? No reason they can't get back to 9-9 which will put their RPI right around 40 and give them a strong case. If Michigan could manage .500 in league they'd likely be in with an expected RPI around 33. Northwestern and Penn St would probably need 10-8 league to have a shot which is doubtful since their RPIs are weaker (not to mention their basketball tradition). Best case for the B10 is that Northwestern and Penn St drop off and start losing like they are supposed to.

gales0678 · #23 01-29-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're probably right, though I don't think the Big 11 gets more than 5 either, and may only get 4. MSU, Purdue, Illinois and Minnesota are the only locks. What other three will go? Wisconsin is done, Penn State and Northwestern have no chance. Ohio State is the only other team I could see going from the Big 11.

I still say 5-6 teams from the Pac-10 would be a very good year, and no one's talking about it.

i agree with 5-6

PAc 10 as we saw during football bowl season doesn't get much respect

ESPN has Vitale constanly pumping the ACC , as packer did when he was with CBS - media bias big time on the ACC confernce and the eastern schools in general

ateamstupid · #24 01-29-2009, 12:40 PM

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Ohio St is a lock at 9-9 in league. Did Wisconsin have a major injury or are you just saying they are done at 3-5 league? No reason they can't get back to 9-9 which will put their RPI right around 40 and give them a strong case. If Michigan could manage .500 in league they'd likely be in with an expected RPI around 33. Northwestern and Penn St would probably need 10-8 league to have a shot which is doubtful since their RPIs are weaker (not to mention their basketball tradition). Best case for the B10 is that Northwestern and Penn St drop off and start losing like they are supposed to.

Even if Wisconsin does get to 9-9, they'd be 18-12 with no quality non-conference win. They have to win 20 games if they want a prayer of getting in. Ohio State has the wins over Butler and Miami (FL), so you're right, they're probably in at 9-9. Michigan would have a solid chance at 9-9 too, but I don't think they're good enough to get there.

SniperSB23 · #25 01-29-2009, 12:44 PM

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Even if Wisconsin does get to 9-9, they'd be 18-12 with no quality non-conference win. They have to win 20 games if they want a prayer of getting in. Ohio State has the wins over Butler and Miami (FL), so you're right, they're probably in at 9-9. Michigan would have a solid chance at 9-9 too, but I don't think they're good enough to get there.

Although that win at Virginia Tech could wind up a head to head matchup between two teams right on the bubble. You look at Wisconsin's schedule though and 10-8 is hardly out of the realm of possibility. I can't see a team go 10-8 in the B10, have an RPI around 33 and not get in.

What will be real interesting is if only 4 teams have winning records in the ACC and then those four advance to the conference semis. You have to assume one or two more get in but they are going to be tough to pick between.

Cannon Shell · #26 01-29-2009, 06:47 PM

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ASU and Herb Sendek - sleeper for the final 4

That would suck

nebrady · #27 01-29-2009, 07:01 PM

I think its wide open! Best game of year last night in duke vs wake. You can say what you want, but the big east is loaded and keeps beating each other up. Everyone talks about louisville and uconn, but what about marquette! They are undefeated and playing great. Their guards mcneal, mathews and james may be the best in the nation. With heyward playing good inside they have the ability to win it all. Playing gtown on saturday. Could be a statement game with an easy win against gtown.l

nebrady · #28 01-29-2009, 07:06 PM

Undefeated in big east play! Also last night nova beat pitt and prov. beat the cuse. So don't tell me the big east isn't tough top to bottom.

King Glorious · #29 01-29-2009, 07:16 PM

The AFC West was pretty evenly matched this year too. Evenly matched does not automatically mean all are good.

nebrady · #30 01-29-2009, 07:30 PM

Well when they release the 64 teams. I'll bet the big east has the most and will definetly have more than the acc. The big east is the best conference!

ateamstupid · #31 01-29-2009, 07:37 PM

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Well when they release the 64 teams. I'll bet the big east has the most and will definetly have more than the acc. The big east is the best conference!

Having more tournament teams doesn't make a conference better.

SniperSB23 · #32 01-29-2009, 08:10 PM

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Undefeated in big east play! Also last night nova beat pitt and prov. beat the cuse. So don't tell me the big east isn't tough top to bottom.

The Big East isn't tough top to bottom. The bottom five teams are a disgrace to the game of college basketball. One through eleven it is an amazing league but those bottom five teams are terrible.

SniperSB23 · #33 01-29-2009, 08:11 PM

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Well when they release the 64 teams. I'll bet the big east has the most and will definetly have more than the acc. The big east is the best conference!

Big East will have the most teams but I also bet Notre Dame won't be among them.

SniperSB23 · #34 02-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Anyone else get the feeling that Missouri fans haven't seen too many good basketball games? What a bunch of whiners who are clueless about the game of basketball.

SniperSB23 · #35 02-09-2009, 09:45 PM

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Anyone else get the feeling that Missouri fans haven't seen too many good basketball games? What a bunch of whiners who are clueless about the game of basketball.

Wow, I take half that back. They are a bunch of whiners but it is totally working right now. A 5 second inbound violation called in 3 seconds, pretty funny.

SniperSB23 · #36 02-09-2009, 10:24 PM

If anyone wants some easy money I will put up $20 if you give me 15-1 that BOTH Kansas and Missouri lose first round in the NCAA Tourney. Both those teams are terrible and too inexperienced to handle March Madness on a neutral court. You'd likely be getting a 3 and 4 against a 13 and 14 and I'd need both to win.

miraja2 · #37 02-09-2009, 10:55 PM

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Anyone else get the feeling that Missouri fans haven't seen too many good basketball games? What a bunch of whiners who are clueless about the game of basketball.

I am too damn happy with the Tigers victory to take much offense at this.....but as for the fans whining, have you ever watched a basketball game where the home fans DON'T whine about the calls? What was so out of the ordinary about the way the fans reacted in that game?
That was a sweet freaking win.

miraja2 · #38 02-09-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If anyone wants some easy money I will put up $20 if you give me 15-1 that BOTH Kansas and Missouri lose first round in the NCAA Tourney. Both those teams are terrible and too inexperienced to handle March Madness on a neutral court. You'd likely be getting a 3 and 4 against a 13 and 14 and I'd need both to win.

The Big 12 as a whole is having a down year....no question about that. Everybody outside of Oklahoma has some serious problems.
But still, Mizzou has already beaten a fairly respectable USC team on a neutral floor, and also gave a good Xavier team absolutely everything they wanted on a neutral floor before spitting the bit in the end. They have also won several true road games this year...including last week's win at Texas.
Both KU and Mizzou have their flaws, but I think calling them both "terrible" is overstating it a bit.

SniperSB23 · #39 02-09-2009, 11:04 PM

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I am too damn happy to take much offense at this.....but as for the fans whining, have you ever watched a basketball game where the home fans DON'T whine about the calls? What was so out of the ordinary about the way the fans reacted in that game?
That was a sweet freakin' victory.

The crowd was completely and totally lost at times, had no clue what the call was even when it was obvious but ultimately it worked as they got the calls later in the game they needed. No offense intended, I just wasn't impressed by either team tonight and think both are extremely susceptible on a neutral court. Oklahoma is alright but they would rip both teams to shreds.

SniperSB23 · #40 02-09-2009, 11:05 PM

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The Big 12 as a whole is having a down year....no question about that. Everybody outside of Oklahoma has some serious problems.
But still, Mizzou has already beaten a fairly respectable USC team on a neutral floor, and also gave a good Xavier team absolutely everything they wanted on a neutral floor before spitting the bit in the end. They have also won several true road games this year...including last week's win at Texas.
Both KU and Mizzou have their flaws, but I think calling them both "terrible" is overstating it a bit.

I'll rephrase my terrible as terrible for a 3 or 4 seed.