This One's for Phil goes nuts...

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Help us Steve please! Are you Milk or are you Meat? If you are going to defend guys like Dutrow and Wolfson and not call them out then why would you suggest Beyer's article is an important read?

Can you agree with Beyer and not denounce the likes of the chemists mentioned?

I won't pretend I know what is going on in specific barns with specific horses. I don't consider it my job to indict or defend, so in answer to your question, I'm 'parve'. You heard me ask direct questions of Wolfson yesterday about 'move-up performance' and you heard his responses. Find another medium in the game where the questions are even asked..

I know some guys are taking advantages and pressing the envelope and I know others are using every skill a horseman has to maximize performance legally. I'm sure that some efforts that many label 'cheating' are actually horsemanship, and others identified as horsemanship are likely cheating.

Everyone draws their own conclusions based on their level of knowledge and depth of understanding. I try to add to the information base by bringing out all I can from those that will discuss the subject openly.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Now you know who can replace Larry King (when he kicks it.)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I won't pretend I know what is going on in specific barns with specific horses. I don't consider it my job to indict or defend, so in answer to your question, I'm 'parve'. You heard me ask direct questions of Wolfson yesterday about 'move-up performance' and you heard his responses. Find another medium in the game where the questions are even asked..

I know some guys are taking advantages and pressing the envelope and I know others are using every skill a horseman has to maximize performance legally. I'm sure that some efforts that many label 'cheating' are actually horsemanship, and others identified as horsemanship are likely cheating.

Everyone draws their own conclusions based on their level of knowledge and depth of understanding. I try to add to the information base by bringing out all I can from those that will discuss the subject openly.

I didnt realize you were Swiss..Sorry my bad

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I didnt realize you were Swiss..Sorry my bad

Actually, I thought it was an odd question. He gave the only answer anybody could(if they're in his situation.)

[Revidere]

Somewhere up there (or down there) Oscar Barrera is smiling on this topic.