Egypt

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I know, I know... he ran in the Darley Dewhurst (Group 1) but he was last and wasn't he Rip's rabbit? Ran in the Railway (G2) but again... wasn't he there for Mastercraftsman?

Aren't most of the pacesetters employed by Ballydoyle for their top tier horses often stakes-calibur runners themselves?

Honolulu, MacArthur, L'Ancresse, Ivan Denisovich, Red Rock Canyon, Yellowstone, Shah Jehan, etc.

I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Aren't most of the pacesetters employed by Ballydoyle for their top tier horses often stakes-calibur runners themselves?

Honolulu, MacArthur, Ivan Denisovich, Red Rock Canyon, Yellowstone, etc.

I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.

Ummm yeah I follow international racing a little bit and yes, they are.

This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Ummm yeah I follow international racing a little bit and yes, they are.

This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.

Bingo!

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Bingo!

Do you remember AOB's runner, Puerto Rico? He's spiraled down to Class 5 in Hong Kong.

Or, as they call them, the cellar dwellars.

I liked him... thought he had potential anyway. He won his first race beating an insane field (26 horses!), hit the board a few times. Went to HK and straight downhill. Sad.

He was, well I hate to say a better horse cause that's silly but at least he showed me something.

Good luck to Egypt. I'm not seeing much but I'm wrong quite a bit of the time.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.

Well, he was second to one of the top-rated juveniles in Ireland last year and the race at Santa Anita was atypically quality-laden, with the first two home coming out of stakes races and the first three finishers having pedigrees riddled with graded stakes horses.

But still, none of that shows he has the ability to compete in stakes competitively, which pretty much eliminates him from consideration in your average maiden special weight carded on the turf in North America.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, he was second to one of the top-rated juveniles in Ireland last year

Just for fun, let's take a look at the rest of that stellar field.

He beat home...

Little Bug (0-3-1 from 9)
Catalpa (O-1-0 from 8)
Naiazek (0-0-0 in 3 starts)
Venetian Dove (0-0-0 in 4 starts)
Oasis Sunset (1-0-1 from 5)
Aaroness (1-0-1 from 5)

Not trying to be a bitch... just having fun.

I really do hope this one improves. Good luck to his supporters.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Just for fun, let's take a look at the rest of that stellar field.

He beat home...

Little Bug (0-3-1 from 9)
Catalpa (O-1-0 from 8)
Naiazek (0-0-0 in 3 starts)
Venetian Dove (0-0-0 in 4 starts)
Oasis Sunset (1-0-1 from 5)
Aaroness (1-0-1 from 5)

Not trying to be a bitch... just having fun.

I really do hope this one improves. Good luck to his supporters.

You have your stats set and ready. I am impressed!

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

You have your stats set and ready. I am impressed!

Stepping away from the nice thread now, very slowly...

[my miss storm cat]

Sorry Hossy. I'll shut up now.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

All that was being talked about is this horse running in a MAIDEN race. I don't think anyone was trying to say the horse was going to win the BC Mile this year. He might not win next out and his trouble wasn't big. But, he did have a little bit and CSC makes a good point about Biancone, etc...

Precisely, we were just talking about a playback. I thought it was obvious.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by CSC

Precisely, we were just talking about a playback. I thought it was obvious.

The irony in all this is that, whereas MMSC had a valid point in saying that Egypt's Group races were a red herring for those who thought the horse was dropping significantly in class, in turn she made a comparable blunder by suggesting that those starts in a pacesetting role were somehow indicative of the colt's true ability.

[CSC]

This is somewhat off topic, but speaking of bad European form and Euro horses turning into stks winners rescued from the abyss, I remember(and I stress remember since I am not looking up stats from work) a horse named Dark Islander, mediocre european form but I do remember him somewhat turning it around over here. Obcourse you have others that go the other way also.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.

As an aside, there is an international forum.

Have a look someday. We won't bite.