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Old 01-10-2009, 11:19 PM
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It's hard to gauge Biancone horses at the moment especially after his suspension, but 1st time in NA runner "Egypt" was an interesting horse to watch in today's 7th race at SA. Ridden by unknown French jockey Julien Couton who reportedly won a meet at Deauville a couple of years ago, he encountered some trouble down the lane, not sure he would have won with a better trip but he may be worth watching down the line. All 3 of them infact.
He has run in a GROUP1 and a GROUP2 on his PP so a MSW in Cali is major drop in class. I will bet against on this one next as I am weary of Euros second time out in the USA. The winner Mark S the Cooler dropped from a G1
to run in a MSW on turf for first time.
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:41 AM
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He has run in a GROUP1 and a GROUP2 on his PP so a MSW in Cali is major drop in class. I will bet against on this one next as I am weary of Euros second time out in the USA. The winner Mark S the Cooler dropped from a G1
to run in a MSW on turf for first time.
Considering how cold Biancone and Couton have been this meet, I thought he ran well enough to be a horse to watch in the future. Interestingly Couton was brought to North America by Biancone to work for him, similarily to what he did for Leparioux. Regardless there may be a few jockies to keep an eye out for, I also read Patrick Husbands will stay on to ride in So Cal, this guy in my opinion can ride if he is given the chance.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:04 PM
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He has run in a GROUP1 and a GROUP2 on his PP so a MSW in Cali is major drop in class. I will bet against on this one next as I am weary of Euros second time out in the USA. The winner Mark S the Cooler dropped from a G1
to run in a MSW on turf for first time.
This horse is a mortal cinch next time out. I just hope we get 8-1 or better on him.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:08 AM
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This horse is a mortal cinch next time out. I just hope we get 8-1 or better on him.

Thats why I hope people like you see his US debut and pound him at the windows next out.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:34 AM
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:05 PM
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This horse is a mortal cinch next time out. I just hope we get 8-1 or better on him.
Respectfully, I'm not seeing this at all.

I know, I know... he ran in the Darley Dewhurst (Group 1) but he was last and wasn't he Rip's rabbit? Ran in the Railway (G2) but again... wasn't he there for Mastercraftsman? I only remember him cause he was an AOB horse and what i do remember is that Beauthea (sp?) pulled an Evening Attire and gave everyone a head start and even she beat him home.

Good luck to you and to his backers. I hope he does well here and everything but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:44 PM
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I know, I know... he ran in the Darley Dewhurst (Group 1) but he was last and wasn't he Rip's rabbit? Ran in the Railway (G2) but again... wasn't he there for Mastercraftsman?
Aren't most of the pacesetters employed by Ballydoyle for their top tier horses often stakes-calibur runners themselves?

Honolulu, MacArthur, L'Ancresse, Ivan Denisovich, Red Rock Canyon, Yellowstone, Shah Jehan, etc.

I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:14 PM
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Aren't most of the pacesetters employed by Ballydoyle for their top tier horses often stakes-calibur runners themselves?

Honolulu, MacArthur, Ivan Denisovich, Red Rock Canyon, Yellowstone, etc.

I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.
Ummm yeah I follow international racing a little bit and yes, they are.

This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:22 PM
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Ummm yeah I follow international racing a little bit and yes, they are.

This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.

Bingo!
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:35 PM
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Bingo!


Do you remember AOB's runner, Puerto Rico? He's spiraled down to Class 5 in Hong Kong.

Or, as they call them, the cellar dwellars.

I liked him... thought he had potential anyway. He won his first race beating an insane field (26 horses!), hit the board a few times. Went to HK and straight downhill. Sad.

He was, well I hate to say a better horse cause that's silly but at least he showed me something.

Good luck to Egypt. I'm not seeing much but I'm wrong quite a bit of the time.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:50 PM
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This horse though? I wouldn't put him in the same category as any of these.

Just my opinion though.
Well, he was second to one of the top-rated juveniles in Ireland last year and the race at Santa Anita was atypically quality-laden, with the first two home coming out of stakes races and the first three finishers having pedigrees riddled with graded stakes horses.

But still, none of that shows he has the ability to compete in stakes competitively, which pretty much eliminates him from consideration in your average maiden special weight carded on the turf in North America.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:35 PM
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Well, he was second to one of the top-rated juveniles in Ireland last year
Just for fun, let's take a look at the rest of that stellar field.

He beat home...

Little Bug (0-3-1 from 9)
Catalpa (O-1-0 from 8)
Naiazek (0-0-0 in 3 starts)
Venetian Dove (0-0-0 in 4 starts)
Oasis Sunset (1-0-1 from 5)
Aaroness (1-0-1 from 5)

Not trying to be a bitch... just having fun.

I really do hope this one improves. Good luck to his supporters.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:39 PM
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I suppose you'd have to follow international racing closely to pick up on this.
As an aside, there is an international forum.

Have a look someday. We won't bite.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:33 PM
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Did you see his race the other day?
Caught the replay. Why?
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