Mock draft theory

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I'm not at all convinced that Sam Bradford will be a good NFL quarterback. He is accurate and has certainly put up big numbers, but he has the best O-Line in the country in front of him, a host of talented skill players around him, and plays in an offense-oriented league.

I just don't think he has the overall skill-set of somebody like Matt Ryan. He reminds me more of John Beck.

none of the pass happy qbs from ou are in the nfl or any of spurrier's fun-n-gun qbs. not even june jones' hawaii qbs have done anything in the big show.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

none of the pass happy qbs from ou are in the nfl or any of spurrier's fun-n-gun qbs. not even june jones' hawaii qbs have done anything in the big show.

Cant compare Bradford and those other guys. Bradford is big, accurate and has a gun. He is a real prospect.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cant compare Bradford and those other guys. Bradford is big, accurate and has a gun. He is a real prospect.

i like Daniels and McCoy better. i think they both throw the ball better. their height will play against them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i like Daniels and McCoy better. i think they both throw the ball better. their height will play against them.

My amateur football scouting ability tells me he is far superior to those other guys, at least from what I have seen.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i like Daniels and McCoy better. i think they both throw the ball better. their height will play against them.

Are you talking about Chase Daniel from Mizzou?
As a Mizzou alum, and a person that has watched all of their games the last two years, I have to disagree with you there. Chase is accurate, but he puts absolutely no zip on the ball whatsoever. He has virtually no arm strength, and therefore I doubt he will have anything approaching a significant NFL career.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Are you talking about Chase Daniel from Mizzou?
As a Mizzou alum, and a person that has watched all of their games the last two years, I have to disagree with you there. Chase is accurate, but he puts absolutely no zip on the ball whatsoever. He has virtually no arm strength, and therefore I doubt he will have anything approaching a significant NFL career.

i've only seen him 3-4 times. he can keep plays alive and is accurate. of the 3 big 12 qbs, i like bradford third.
i like stafford from uga too but he's very streaky. snead from ole miss, hasn't gotten enough credit and he's done it with a lot less talent than the others.

[King Glorious]

The best quarterback prospect is Robert Griffin down at Baylor. That guy is a star in the making. Mark my words.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i've only seen him 3-4 times. he can keep plays alive and is accurate. of the 3 big 12 qbs, i like bradford third.
i like stafford from uga too but he's very streaky. snead from ole miss, hasn't gotten enough credit and he's done it with a lot less talent than the others.

It is hard for me to say anything bad about a guy that has been such a big part of reversing the Tigers' football program, but I just don't think he could possibly rate ahead of Bradford.
My list goes:
1) McCoy
2) Bradford
3) Graham Harrell / Chase Daniel

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cant compare Bradford and those other guys. Bradford is big, accurate and has a gun. He is a real prospect.

As much as I hate the Republic of Georgia ... Stafford will probably be the #1 pick taken.

He's as big and accurate and has a much better gun. Bradford has a supposedly O-line for the ages blocking for him ... and plays in a pinball confrence loaded with suspect pass defenses.

Stafford and Bradford came from the same highschool class ... one was ranked 2 overall and the other 17th. ... which tells me Stafford will probably have the better combine.

1. Mitch Mustain
(Springdale HS)
Springdale, AR 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to Arkansas
2 Matthew Stafford
(Highland Park HS)
Dallas, TX 6-2.5/212/4.75 Committed to Georgia
3 Tim Tebow
(Nease HS)
St Augustine, FL 6-3/225/4.60 Committed to Florida
4 Pat Devlin
(Downingtown West HS)
Downingtown, PA 6-4/200/4.70 Committed to Penn State
5 Isiah Williams
(Chicago Vocational HS)
Chicago, IL 6-2/220/4.70 Committed to Illinois
6 Jevan Snead
(Stephenville HS)
Stephenville, TX 6-2.5/195/4.80 Committed to Texas
7 Jake Locker
(Ferndale HS)
Ferndale, WA 6-2/210/4.60 Committed to Washington
8 Alex Cate
(Cottonwood HS)
Salt Lake City, UT 6-2/198/4.76 Committed to Oklahoma State
9 Zach Frazer
(Mechanicsburg Area HS)
Mechanicsburg, PA 6-4/209/4.80 Committed to Notre Dame
10 Neil Caudle
(Spain Park HS)
Hoover, AL 6-2/192/4.60 Committed to Auburn
11 Nick Stephens
(Flower Mound HS)
Lewisville, TX 6-3.5/208/4.90 Committed to Tennessee
12 Sherrod Harris
(Bowie HS)
Arlington, TX 6-2/210/4.65 Committed to Texas
13 Antonio Henton
(Peach County HS)
Fort Valley, GA 6-1.5/207/4.65 Committed to Ohio State
14 Taylor Potts
(Abilene HS)
Abilene, TX 6-3.5/205/5.13 Committed to Texas Tech
15 Josh Freeman
(Grandview Sr. HS)
Grandview, MO 6-5/226/4.84 Committed to Kansas State
16 James Lark
(Pineview HS)
St George, UT 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to BYU
17 Sam Bradford
(Putnam City North HS)
Oklahoma City, OK 6-4/190/4.70 Committed to Oklahoma

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

As much as I hate the Republic of Georgia ... Stafford will probably be the #1 pick taken.

He's as big and accurate and has a much better gun. Bradford has a supposedly O-line for the ages blocking for him ... and plays in a pinball confrence loaded with suspect pass defenses.

Stafford and Bradford came from the same highschool class ... one was ranked 2 overall and the other 17th. ... which tells me Stafford will probably have the better combine.

1. Mitch Mustain
(Springdale HS)
Springdale, AR 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to Arkansas
2 Matthew Stafford
(Highland Park HS)
Dallas, TX 6-2.5/212/4.75 Committed to Georgia
3 Tim Tebow
(Nease HS)
St Augustine, FL 6-3/225/4.60 Committed to Florida
4 Pat Devlin
(Downingtown West HS)
Downingtown, PA 6-4/200/4.70 Committed to Penn State
5 Isiah Williams
(Chicago Vocational HS)
Chicago, IL 6-2/220/4.70 Committed to Illinois
6 Jevan Snead
(Stephenville HS)
Stephenville, TX 6-2.5/195/4.80 Committed to Texas
7 Jake Locker
(Ferndale HS)
Ferndale, WA 6-2/210/4.60 Committed to Washington
8 Alex Cate
(Cottonwood HS)
Salt Lake City, UT 6-2/198/4.76 Committed to Oklahoma State
9 Zach Frazer
(Mechanicsburg Area HS)
Mechanicsburg, PA 6-4/209/4.80 Committed to Notre Dame
10 Neil Caudle
(Spain Park HS)
Hoover, AL 6-2/192/4.60 Committed to Auburn
11 Nick Stephens
(Flower Mound HS)
Lewisville, TX 6-3.5/208/4.90 Committed to Tennessee
12 Sherrod Harris
(Bowie HS)
Arlington, TX 6-2/210/4.65 Committed to Texas
13 Antonio Henton
(Peach County HS)
Fort Valley, GA 6-1.5/207/4.65 Committed to Ohio State
14 Taylor Potts
(Abilene HS)
Abilene, TX 6-3.5/205/5.13 Committed to Texas Tech
15 Josh Freeman
(Grandview Sr. HS)
Grandview, MO 6-5/226/4.84 Committed to Kansas State
16 James Lark
(Pineview HS)
St George, UT 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to BYU
17 Sam Bradford
(Putnam City North HS)
Oklahoma City, OK 6-4/190/4.70 Committed to Oklahoma

Anyone know where he's transferring to?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's going to be a Delaware Blue Hen. Taking after the Ravens rookie I guess.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's going to be a Delaware Blue Hen. Taking after the Ravens rookie I guess.

Negative trainer switch but has to love the drop in class.

[ddthetide]

• #1 Mustain transfered to USC, probably never see the field.
• #6 Snead transfered to Ole Miss and had Great year!
• #7 Locker plays his guts out for a BAD Wash. program

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

As much as I hate the Republic of Georgia ... Stafford will probably be the #1 pick taken.

He's as big and accurate and has a much better gun. Bradford has a supposedly O-line for the ages blocking for him ... and plays in a pinball confrence loaded with suspect pass defenses.

Stafford and Bradford came from the same highschool class ... one was ranked 2 overall and the other 17th. ... which tells me Stafford will probably have the better combine.

1. Mitch Mustain
(Springdale HS)
Springdale, AR 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to Arkansas
2 Matthew Stafford
(Highland Park HS)
Dallas, TX 6-2.5/212/4.75 Committed to Georgia
3 Tim Tebow
(Nease HS)
St Augustine, FL 6-3/225/4.60 Committed to Florida
4 Pat Devlin
(Downingtown West HS)
Downingtown, PA 6-4/200/4.70 Committed to Penn State
5 Isiah Williams
(Chicago Vocational HS)
Chicago, IL 6-2/220/4.70 Committed to Illinois
6 Jevan Snead
(Stephenville HS)
Stephenville, TX 6-2.5/195/4.80 Committed to Texas
7 Jake Locker
(Ferndale HS)
Ferndale, WA 6-2/210/4.60 Committed to Washington
8 Alex Cate
(Cottonwood HS)
Salt Lake City, UT 6-2/198/4.76 Committed to Oklahoma State
9 Zach Frazer
(Mechanicsburg Area HS)
Mechanicsburg, PA 6-4/209/4.80 Committed to Notre Dame
10 Neil Caudle
(Spain Park HS)
Hoover, AL 6-2/192/4.60 Committed to Auburn
11 Nick Stephens
(Flower Mound HS)
Lewisville, TX 6-3.5/208/4.90 Committed to Tennessee
12 Sherrod Harris
(Bowie HS)
Arlington, TX 6-2/210/4.65 Committed to Texas
13 Antonio Henton
(Peach County HS)
Fort Valley, GA 6-1.5/207/4.65 Committed to Ohio State
14 Taylor Potts
(Abilene HS)
Abilene, TX 6-3.5/205/5.13 Committed to Texas Tech
15 Josh Freeman
(Grandview Sr. HS)
Grandview, MO 6-5/226/4.84 Committed to Kansas State
16 James Lark
(Pineview HS)
St George, UT 6-3/200/4.70 Committed to BYU
17 Sam Bradford
(Putnam City North HS)
Oklahoma City, OK 6-4/190/4.70 Committed to Oklahoma

Snead might be the best of the bunch when all is said and done.
Stafford coming out is a complete joke, IMO he's not ready i don't see him making the plays you have to make at the next level just yet. Moreno, sure go get yours, you had 2 solid years. Chase Daniel will get drafted as a mid-rounder and fade away, Harrell is an absolute crapshoot, i've always thought TT guys were a product of their system, can't say i have high hopes for him.
Underrated QB: Zac Robinson for OKSU, good passer and runner, plus he's got the support of T. Boone Pickens
** anyone know what happened to Locker out @ Washington, i know he had a pretty good season last year, but they were horrible this year

-- and Josh Freeman is entering the draft early b/c he's projected as a 1st rounder...... haven't seen him play, but just b/c you're 6'5 and qb it doesn't make you awesome or an automatic 1st round pick

-bt-

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by -BT-

** anyone know what happened to Locker out @ Washington, i know he had a pretty good season last year, but they were horrible this year

-bt-

he was hurt and should get a medical redshirt.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cant compare Bradford and those other guys. Bradford is big, accurate and has a gun. He is a real prospect.

You are right about that, but I just haven't been impressed with Bradford when he doesn't have all day to throw. When he has to move at all in the pocket, or has a guy in his face, he seems to struggle. Of course all quarterbacks do worse in those situations, but he seems to struggle more than others.