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12-31-2008, 10:15 PM
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I am a modest bettor, however I never bet maidens of any kind pk3 pk4 pk6
(except the imaginary contests) any 2yr old race or any about distance race like FG has a lot of,and I can say exactas I manage a small loss however win bets was a small gain, but believe it or not place bets off my twin spires acct management report was the best roi. I was shocked. Last edited by sdjcom : 12-31-2008 at 11:05 PM. 
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12-31-2008, 10:52 PM
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How do you eliminate any "about distance races" when virtually all turf courses move the rail (thus affecting distance slightly)after 7-10 racing days? How about when they are taken off and moderately adjusted for the distance? If you bet what you post, (and I am in no way insinuating you don't) you are far from a modest bettor.I agree that Place bets are probably the most successful way to go over the long haul for sure. Thanks for the insight - it's pretty cool to be able to track this and provide data that most of us don't bother with. I learned alot this year doing some of the same. Have a great New Year and look forward to your selections in '09
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12-31-2008, 11:02 PM
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12-31-2008, 11:04 PM
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HNY Elvis, if you read it again i do not bet multi-race bets except on the contests steve puts up for fun. Also I don't believe you have ever seen me post a multi- race bet for real money on this site, as well as 2yr old races, and maiden races, if i ever do it was a huge mistake and i was asleep at the keyboard. so i can pass these races,and as far as the turf races i agreed that the rail can change distance slightly however i still use the times for the standard distances and pass about dis, races, to be honest i'm not a big fan of turf races, and i had a small loss on exactas, i posted wrong will change it.
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12-31-2008, 11:27 PM
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I made a few hundred this year which is good for me. I usually lose 500 to 1000. Maybe that bodes well for the new year. I played exactas almost exclusively. Next year I will continue to do the same, but I do intend to play a few more difficult bets like tris, supers, high fives, etc. on big days like Breeders Cup, KD, etc.
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12-31-2008, 11:35 PM
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and 10-20 wp bets however i pass all the races i mentioned so usually it's 4-6 races per racetrack. i think that is modest betting.
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12-31-2008, 11:44 PM
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01-01-2009, 12:12 AM
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 Glad to be home... If you ever get to Tampa, PM Me or Bigs...get ya hooked up TBD style!
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01-01-2009, 12:26 AM
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10-4 sounds good , my wife is from huntington wv and i bought my first home in st pete off of 4th st north in 1979. about 3 miles from gandy blvd and derby lane. i went to TBD when george owned it and haven't been back since, guess it's change alot. they still have that big flea mkt down the street from there?
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01-01-2009, 07:38 AM
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Twin Spires is great in being able to isolate bets and find where your strongest and weakest. The only two tracks I showed a profit at were Santa Anita and Tampa. Lost at all others. These are the numbers post-Saratoga when I opened the account:
All Bets %wins ROI $won/lost 309 19.42% +0.02 +32.50 Pick 3 19 21.05% +1.97 +481.00 W/P 87 28.74 -0.09 -40.70 exacta 86 12.79 -0.32 -202.70 win 62 17.74 -0.35 -98.90 What is interesting is I play exacta's a lot but is about my worst bet. I really thought I did well playing W/P and 28%+ is good but still lost money, but did better than playing just win bets by far. So, it looks like if I take the time to put wagers together, I'd be a lot better off playing pick 3's. It's a bit skewed as I hit one big one but still this information is telling me that's where I do the best.
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01-01-2009, 08:13 AM
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01-01-2009, 09:13 AM
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This is the first year I KNOW I've made money. I didn't keep as good of track up until this year, but generally figured I'd lost based on my day-to-day.
This year was the best year I've ever had and credit most of it to being more involved at Arlington Park so I was seeing every race, every day, and going much further in depth handicapping races than I ever had before because I had to actually write about them for other people. That helped immeasurably, and led to two really big pick-4 scores in July and on Million Day. Managed to cash at Keeneland as well, and found out that I'm much better off just spending my money on horizontal bets and getting knocked out than trying to play more races within them. I'd rather make two big bets per day if I like the sequence than make a bunch of smaller ones, and finally got the balls to go in heavier on horses straight in the win pool that I really like. And then I got murdered to the tune of, well, a ****-ton of money on BC weekend at Santa Anita. I blame the Grey Goose, which is in effect essentially blaming Bob and Barney. And Raven's Pass.
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