Barbaro (the Champ)

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by dr.fager

you forgot self-proclaimed, I'd take my girl Cajun anytime.

I'm not self proclaimed. I am very credible in this department, have many experts who will recommend me, and I have the awards to prove it. I was ranked second in the nation at it when I was 18.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I'm not self proclaimed. I am very credible in this department, have many experts who will recommend me, and I have the awards to prove it. I was ranked second in the nation at it when I was 18.

we know as well as literary awards, riding titles, expert on police brutality....

get a sense of humor

Originally Posted by dr.fager

we know as well as literary awards, riding titles, expert on police brutality....

get a sense of humor

She might be blonde. Cut her some slack.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by dr.fager

we know as well as literary awards, riding titles, expert on police brutality....

get a sense of humor

Nice one, Dr.Fager.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by dr.fager

we know as well as literary awards, riding titles, expert on police brutality....

get a sense of humor

Go check out the websites that I posted of myself winning the riding/educational/judging titles. I will posts pictures of all of literary/journalism awards as well, but I am not on websites for those. When did I ever say that I was an expert on police brutality? I have studied it, but I am certainly not an expert on it.

LOL.

AGAIN, WHEN MY CREDIBILITY IS ATTACKED, I BRING UP PAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO PROVE THAT I AM INDEED CREDIBLE. If any of you think that it is wrong, then kiss my a s s because I don't think it is, especially when someone is saying that I don't know my stuff when I do. All of this arose from posters saying just that. I am trying to get you all to think. In other words, I posted my resume to give myself some credibility so that some of these posters would take a step back, look at their current stance, and then decide if it was beneficial or intelligent to change their mind.

I have an analogy. Someone who you think is your friend gives you a clear, colorless liquid. You think that it is water. As you put it up to your mouth, another friend yells, "Stop! Don't drink that! It's poison!" Now, are you going to still drink the poison because you want to be consistent, or do you change your mind because you were given new, beneficial information.

There is nothing wrong with changing (or not changing) your mind when you consider others perspectives on situations and the facts, especially if they have the credibility (not talking about this thread because it is opinion at this point; talking about life because I'm in the mood to do so) to back it up. One thing I will do is admit when I am wrong and change my opinion if need be. We need to learn from each other, not attack each other. That is one of the biggest problems in America right now IMO.

One of the best phrases, "All successful people in life have big egos....doctors, lawyers, and the like. It takes a big ego to get themselves there." This saying holds to be true. Since I can't become a jockey because I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, I am going to be a rheumatologist (a arthritis/allergy doctor). Do you get my drift? I am very proud of my accomplishments and like telling the whole world about them, but then again, most people do. If that offends you then I am sorry, but this is just who I am. You have to take the good and the bad with me because I am not going to change who I am or hide behind a mask just so a horse racing message board (that consists of people I don't even know) won't gang up on me. I'm real, and don't hide behind a superficial wall like a lot of people do. Nor do I back down from a challenge (especially an academic one) unless the other person clearly knows more about a topic than I do.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Go check out the websites that I posted of myself winning the riding/educational/judging titles. I will posts pictures of all of literary/journalism awards as well, but I am not on websites for those. When did I ever say that I was an expert on police brutality? I have studied it, but I am certainly not an expert on it.

LOL.

AGAIN, WHEN MY CREDIBILITY IS ATTACKED, I BRING UP PAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO PROVE THAT I AM INDEED CREDIBLE. If any of you think that it is wrong, then kiss my a s s because I don't think it is, especially when someone is saying that I don't know my stuff when I do. All of this arose from posters saying just that. I am trying to get you all to think. In other words, I posted my resume to give myself some credibility so that some of these posters would take a step back, look at their current stance, and then decide if it was beneficial or intelligent to change their mind.

I have an analogy. Someone who you think is your friend gives you a clear, colorless liquid. You think that it is water. As you put it up to your mouth, another friend yells, "Stop! Don't drink that! It's poison!" Now, are you going to still drink the poison because you want to be consistent, or do you change your mind because you were given new, beneficial information.

There is nothing wrong with changing (or not changing) your mind when you consider others perspectives on situations and the facts, especially if they have the credibility (not talking about this thread because it is opinion at this point; talking about life because I'm in the mood to do so) to back it up. One thing I will do is admit when I am wrong and change my opinion if need be. We need to learn from each other, not attack each other. That is one of the biggest problems in America right now IMO.

One of the best phrases, "All successful people in life have big egos....doctors, lawyers, and the like. It takes a big ego to get themselves there." This saying holds to be true. Since I can't become a jockey because I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, I am going to be a rheumatologist (a arthritis/allergy doctor). Do you get my drift? I am very proud of my accomplishments and like telling the whole world about them, but then again, most people do. If that offends you then I am sorry, but this is just who I am. You have to take the good and the bad with me because I am not going to change who I am or hide behind a mask just so a horse racing message board (that consists of people I don't even know) won't gang up on me. I'm real, and don't hide behind a superficial wall like a lot of people do. Nor do I back down from a challenge (especially an academic one) unless the other person clearly knows more about a topic than I do.

good luck being a rheumatologist...all those blue ribbons, however, does not prove you know jack about thoroughbreds and thoroughbred racing, you guys want to talk dressage, go to a 4-H club, you want to know about big time money bloodhorses, put your ego aside and listen up

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

good luck being a rheumatologist...all those blue ribbons, however, does not prove you know jack about thoroughbreds and thoroughbred racing, you guys want to talk dressage, go to a 4-H club, you want to know about big time money bloodhorses, put your ego aside and listen up

Listen to what? It has all been a bunch of jibberish on here lately. Pedigree Ann, Bold Brooklynite, Oracle, Cunningham, Moodwalker, and Rupert Pupkin are the only ones that post on here regularly that are professionals in the industry. They haven't been posting very much lately. I know quite a bit about Thoroughbreds thank you very much. Do you think that Thoroughbred race horses are any different from the other horses in the world other than in the way that they are trained? I think not! Also, last time I checked dressage is an international sport and has there own million dollar horses who show in the Olympics. Horses are horses. Show horses have the same illnesses, lamenesses, breeding practices, and heart that race horses do. They are even handled from birth to a yearling the same exact way. The only difference is in the training. Don't talk degradingly about the 4-H club anyway. Most of the best veterinarians in the U.S. started in the 4-H. I'm convinced that my friend, who was in the 4-H, is going to become one of the best horse racing veterinarians in the country. She's a smart cookie.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Listen to what? It has all been a bunch of jibberish on here lately. Pedigree Ann, Bold Brooklynite, Oracle, Cunningham, Moodwalker, and Rupert Pupkin are the only ones that post on here regularly that are professionals in the industry. They haven't been posting very much lately. I know quite a bit about Thoroughbreds thank you very much. Do you think that Thoroughbred race horses are any different from the other horses in the world other than in the way that they are trained? I think not! This nonsense needs to stop.

They are not the ONLY ones working in the industry who post here
even so, some of us have professional level knowledge
or have been around the game our entire lives
I have a degree in equine studies, and have studied extensive
conformation & pedigree and sales trends in the THOROUGHBRED INDUSTRY
so...you think you are the resident expert?
I won't put you down, because I don't know what experience you have had
but all I ask is you show the same respect to the rest of us
because our knowledge and experience may outweigh your own
by a long-shot, ya never know...you're just assuming

If you can take the time to stop looking at the sky you might want to check your nose, it's ripe with boogers.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

They are not the ONLY ones working in the industry who post here
even so, some of us have professional level knowledge
or have been around the game our entire lives
I have a degree in equine studies, and have studied extensive
conformation & pedigree and sales trends in the THOROUGHBRED INDUSTRY
so...you think you are the resident expert?
I won't put you down, because I don't know what experience you have had
but all I ask is you show the same respect to the rest of us
because our knowledge and experience may outweigh your own
by a long-shot, ya never know...you're just assuming

What is your degree? Equine Management or something else? How many studies have you conducted? I have done too many studies to count on conformation analysis of the Thoroughbred breed...of all horse breeds in every discipline. Give me some credentials and I will show respect. I may not be the only expert in this area, but no one else was speaking up or giving me any information to think otherwise. Rupert Pupkin is also an expert in the subject on this board. Larphage is good at it too. I will do a complete analysis on both barbaro and bernardini when I get back. I will say that Barbaro had very bad conformation, but he was built like a cheetah meaning that he was very, very fast. Also keep in mind that judging can be rather opinionated.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Go check out the websites that I posted of myself winning the riding/educational/judging titles. I will posts pictures of all of literary/journalism awards as well, but I am not on websites for those. When did I ever say that I was an expert on police brutality? I have studied it, but I am certainly not an expert on it.

LOL.

AGAIN, WHEN MY CREDIBILITY IS ATTACKED, I BRING UP PAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO PROVE THAT I AM INDEED CREDIBLE. If any of you think that it is wrong, then kiss my a s s because I don't think it is, especially when someone is saying that I don't know my stuff when I do. All of this arose from posters saying just that. I am trying to get you all to think. In other words, I posted my resume to give myself some credibility so that some of these posters would take a step back, look at their current stance, and then decide if it was beneficial or intelligent to change their mind.

I have an analogy. Someone who you think is your friend gives you a clear, colorless liquid. You think that it is water. As you put it up to your mouth, another friend yells, "Stop! Don't drink that! It's poison!" Now, are you going to still drink the poison because you want to be consistent, or do you change your mind because you were given new, beneficial information.

There is nothing wrong with changing (or not changing) your mind when you consider others perspectives on situations and the facts, especially if they have the credibility (not talking about this thread because it is opinion at this point; talking about life because I'm in the mood to do so) to back it up. One thing I will do is admit when I am wrong and change my opinion if need be. We need to learn from each other, not attack each other. That is one of the biggest problems in America right now IMO.

One of the best phrases, "All successful people in life have big egos....doctors, lawyers, and the like. It takes a big ego to get themselves there." This saying holds to be true. Since I can't become a jockey because I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, I am going to be a rheumatologist (a arthritis/allergy doctor). Do you get my drift? I am very proud of my accomplishments and like telling the whole world about them, but then again, most people do. If that offends you then I am sorry, but this is just who I am. You have to take the good and the bad with me because I am not going to change who I am or hide behind a mask just so a horse racing message board (that consists of people I don't even know) won't gang up on me. I'm real, and don't hide behind a superficial wall like a lot of people do. Nor do I back down from a challenge (especially an academic one) unless the other person clearly knows more about a topic than I do.

again get a sense of humor....I never attacked your credibility if you can show me where anyone but you said "I'm the conformation analysis expert on this board" then I'll concede.

But frankly it doesn't matter it was a joke...that statement was as much of a dig on cajun as you...difference is she didn't spend half her day formulating a response....why....because she has a sense of humor.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by dr.fager

again get a sense of humor....I never attacked your credibility if you can show me where anyone but you said "I'm the conformation analysis expert on this board" then I'll concede.

But frankly it doesn't matter it was a joke...that statement was as much of a dig on cajun as you...difference is she didn't spend half her day formulating a response....why....because she has a sense of humor.

Awww, I guess I'm just so used to negativety on this site. You didn't attack my credibility. Others did. I just posted my replay in this thread. You are right...a sense of humor would be good today but I'm really stressed out. I had a sense of humor last night though. I can't remember. I'm running on only four hours of sleep and I'm quite cranky. Well, I'm back off to college! Ya'll take care and don't get any rowdier until I get back (I don't want to miss all of the good stuff). LOL.

Why don't ya'll post a thread that has all of the forum members vote for or against Bernardini. That way, we could end the debate, at least, on the board. I don't have time to right now.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I'm not self proclaimed. I am very credible in this department, have many experts who will recommend me, and I have the awards to prove it. I was ranked second in the nation at it when I was 18.

is there anything more off-putting than a person who is constantly announcing how wonderful he or she is?
--I will bet my house that you have not been up close to either of these horses and that television is not shot for conformation analysis.
What they do with what they have is not the same as truly deconstructing the horse to assess him.
I believe that you do know your game and judging but remember you are only ranked second among those who COMPETE and there are MANY MANY people who are just as good or better than you are who don't.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

is there anything more off-putting than a person who is constantly announcing how wonderful he or she is?
--I will bet my house that you have not been up close to either of these horses and that television is not shot for conformation analysis. What they do with what they have is not the same as truly deconstructing the horse to assess him. I believe that you do know your game and judging but remember you are only ranked second among those who COMPETE and there are MANY MANY people who are just as good or better than you are who don't.

Agreed . I for one, would be REALLY interested in a savvy account of the physical similarities of the horses in question ... A good professional analysis would be educational to all . A whiney defense of this person's anonymous accomplishments is just that .

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by prudery

Agreed . I for one, would be REALLY interested in a savvy account of the physical similarities of the horses in question ... A good professional analysis would be educational to all . A whiney defense of this person's anonymous accomplishments is just that .

yup. ME too--I had the pleasure of spending an hour with Bernardini on sunday and could tell you all about his personality etc. But since he was in a stall I would not feel comfortable speaking to his conformation. Nice horse though.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

yup. ME too--I had the pleasure of spending an hour with Bernardini on sunday and could tell you all about his personality etc. But since he was in a stall I would not feel comfortable speaking to his conformation. Nice horse though.

I am jealous .

Originally Posted by prudery

Agreed . I for one, would be REALLY interested in a savvy account of the physical similarities of the horses in question ... A good professional analysis would be educational to all . A whiney defense of this person's anonymous accomplishments is just that .

She's still young and learning the game, by her own admission...still, she did put herself out there...I'm curious as to what breed she was judging, Palomino American Saddlebreds perhaps? and she finsihed a close second behind Wilber Post...

[prudery]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

She's still young and learning the game, by her own admission...still, she did put herself out there...I'm curious as to what breed she was judging, Palomino American Saddlebreds perhaps? and she finsihed a close second behind Wilber Post...

Wiiiiiiiiiilllllllllburrrrrrrr sure knew how to pick 'em .