Dick Jauron/Turk Schonert/Jets/Dolphins playalong thread

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Come on. The last-place team is 8-8 and the four teams are ranked 6, 9, 12 and 13 by FO. How could the NFC South possibly be seen as a benign division? You're telling me there's a last-place team that's even close to as good as the Saints? How about a second-to-last place team?

The Saints have huge problems on defense and Tampa has huge issues on offense. THey played the NFC North and AFC West this year. Atlanta is a mirage and Tampa lost to Oakland in a playoff clinching game. You wanna believe that this division is a million times better than the AFC East fine. But Cassel still had a better year than Ryan.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Saints have huge problems on defense and Tampa has huge issues on offense. THey played the NFC North and AFC West this year. Atlanta is a mirage and Tampa lost to Oakland in a playoff clinching game. You wanna believe that this division is a million times better than the AFC East fine. But Cassel still had a better year than Ryan.

Cassell had a better year than Ryan because Ryan had a very good running game. Which in turn might have helped in in the passing game. Nonetheless, thats sort of unfair.

All this is really hard.

Where would people have put Derek Anderson two years ago?

I think a guy that derserves much more credit than he is getting
is Rogers. Especially after I saw him absolutely crush a defensive
back after an interception. No really, no running game, a bad o-line,
and I thought the guy did a heck of a good job seeing that he was
running for his life or on his back most of the season.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Cassell had a better year than Ryan because Ryan had a very good running game. Which in turn might have helped in in the passing game. Nonetheless, thats sort of unfair.

All this is really hard.

Where would people have put Derek Anderson two years ago?

I think a guy that derserves much more credit than he is getting
is Rogers. Especially after I saw him absolutely crush a defensive
back after an interception. No really, no running game, a bad o-line,
and I thought the guy did a heck of a good job seeing that he was
running for his life or on his back most of the season.

Your argument doesn't hold much, the Falcons had the 2nd ranked rushing game in the league, but the Patriots had the 6th. The difference is marginal at best, only 10 yds/game more:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

Your argument doesn't hold much, the Falcons had the 2nd ranked rushing game in the league, but the Patriots had the 6th. The difference is marginal at best, only 10 yds/game more:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1

The bottom line is the Falcons relied heavily on the ground game
to protect Ryan. And they did a damn good job of it. The Falcons
are a smash mouth running team get in 2nd or 3rd and short. The Patriots
did not play this type of game.

[GPK]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004

[ateamstupid]

If there's anyone who deserves to complain, it's TJ. He carried the offense all season, and he's one of the hardest workers in the league. He was one of the few Jets who didn't quit during the 4-12 season. I respect the hell out of the dude. And somebody had to say it.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If there's anyone who deserves to complain, it's TJ. He carried the offense all season, and he's one of the hardest workers in the league. He was one of the few Jets who didn't quit during the 4-12 season. I respect the hell out of the dude. And somebody had to say it.

Plus, this wasn't just a heat of the moment thing. It was a few days later, so this must have been festering. There's probably a lot we don't know about what really went on with this team this year.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If there's anyone who deserves to complain, it's TJ. He carried the offense all season, and he's one of the hardest workers in the league. He was one of the few Jets who didn't quit during the 4-12 season. I respect the hell out of the dude. And somebody had to say it.

I have no problem with his comments and think it is ridiculous that the media is making such a big deal out of it. It has to be frustrating as hell to watch your football team collapse by poor play from a player that is immune to benching. And who exactly is he supposed to vent to? They don't have a head coach. If anything this is a smart move, the more people that speak up against Bret publicly the less likely he will be back next year. Privately airing your grievances with the GM isn't going to make one bit of difference.

Of course, as a Bills fan I'd much rather see them kiss and make up and Bret come back next year to doom another Jets season and push them another year back towards rebuilding. Or even better, the GM ship Jones out of town and try and make Leon Washington their feature back.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If there's anyone who deserves to complain, it's TJ. He carried the offense all season, and he's one of the hardest workers in the league. He was one of the few Jets who didn't quit during the 4-12 season. I respect the hell out of the dude. And somebody had to say it.

TJ killed it this year, which is why it's even more mind boggling to me they only gave him the ball 10 times in the season finale. Unfortunately he's hitting the 30 year old wall... hopefully for him he has a couple good seasons left.