Islam and the weapon of deception

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Honu

"..they dont care if they kill women and children as long as they blow something up."

They care deeply about Muslim women and children who get killed by Non-Muslims. They didn't care when Hamas was shooting rockets in to Israel. They don't care about 9 Jews getting killed by those rockets. They care a whoooooole lot about the loss of Muslim life that took place when Israel finally bombed Hamas compounds in Gaza. Muslims care a great deal about other Muslims, and not a whole lot about anyone else.

[hi_im_god]

it's weird to me that so few seem to get this.

it's not that i think murder would disappear if everyone stopped imagining invisible giants were so insecure they needed our constant attention and that we had to kill other people who believed in slightly different invisible giants.

i'm positive we'd still find plenty of reasons to kill each other even if we stopped the whole invisible giant paradigm.

but why do people think it's a belief in THAT invisible giant that's the problem?

as opposed to the problem being that some people are just ass holes? and they'd still be ass holes no matter which invisible giant they believed in?

What if the invisible giant is Andre?

[hi_im_god]

we should burn at the stake all his believer's.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's weird to me that so few seem to get this.

it's not that i think murder would disappear if everyone stopped imagining invisible giants were so insecure they needed our constant attention and that we had to kill other people who believed in slightly different invisible giants.

i'm positive we'd still find plenty of reasons to kill each other even if we stopped the whole invisible giant paradigm.

but why do people think it's a belief in THAT invisible giant that's the problem?

as opposed to the problem being that some people are just ass holes? and they'd still be ass holes no matter which invisible giant they believed in?

Well, we can play whatever game you want (to get around the fact that one particular religion believes in killing 1)nonbelievers, and 2)those who want to stop believing,) but I don't believe these people are born ass holes. I believe they are born into an ass-hole religion. If someone seeks this religion out, then they were an ass-hole to begin with. If a woman were to convert to it, they would surely be masochistic.

lulz

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, we can play whatever game you want (to get around the fact that one particular religion believes in killing 1)nonbelievers, and 2)those who want to stop believing,) but I don't believe these people are born ass holes. I believe they are born into an ass-hole religion. If someone seeks this religion out, then they were an ass-hole to begin with. If a woman were to convert to it, they would surely be masochistic.

you're a true believer.i think if you were born elsewhere, you'd probably fly a plane into me.

i guess i'm glad you're here where all you do is gas the board.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you're a true believer.i think if you were born elsewhere, you'd probably fly a plane into me.

i guess i'm glad you're here where all you do is gas the board.

Yea, you always attack the messenger when you can't stay on the topic. You're giving this religion a pass, because you're taught to be tolerant, but(in this case) you're tolerating a religion that believes in killing those who want to leave it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Differences in language and religion are natural separators of people. Do all religions demand the killing of non-believers, or those people that want to leave the religion? It appears that people want to blame all religions for the problems that Islam presents to those that don't believe in it. Odd to me, because I don't see Buddhism or Hinduism threatening nonbelievers. I just think people in this country are constantly taught toleration, and their way of tolerating Islam is to say all religion is violent(truth is one particular large religion is very violent.)

[GPK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

[herkhorse]

Road to Peace (2006) Tom Waits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqhoCj4uFfQ