Islam and the weapon of deception

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

I dont hate Muslims , I hate what the radicals do to people their own and others . They control the situation , if the peace loving one's had enough gumption or nerve they would stand up , write letters to the world , make a statement on tv to everyone that would listen that this is not what their faith is about . Yet they stand by and let their brothers and sisters with hate in their heart do the talking , why dont the leaders of these countries who are Muslim , if they dont condone the violence the followers of their faith stand up and say something , make it stop , stop supporting them with money and arms. I am not ignorant , I went to school with a Muslim girl , I have neighbors that are Ethiopian and Muslim all very nice people who dont seem to care that Im not Muslim . I dont hate anyone , but Im not so blind that to see a pattern of hate that is fostered from the time some of these people are born , Dateline did a great piece on children in Palistine that are tought in school to hate and are tought how to build bambs that they can strap to themselves so they can kill people and this is something that thru the Muslim faith is considered honorable. So I guess when the peace loving kind hearted Muslims stand up for what they believe in then people might start to believe that Islam is not a violent faith. Until then the perception is greater to think that Muslims are violent and treat their women and daughters like trash , that they dont care about their fellow man nor themselves.

sadly, that happens everywhere. it's not limited to muslims, it's christians (who somehow manage to ignore the words of their leader) as well. i was just around my brother in law, who goes to church every sunday and went to help feed the homeless on christmas--sounds like a great guy, right....yet he uses the 'n' word, which i told him was disgusting. and he has three kids. no doubt he considers himself a christian, yet teaches his children hate by exhibiting racism.
we can all do better. but pointing fingers at others, while pretending we are so great (do we put others down so as to hopefully become elevated?) in my opinion is wrong. timmi is a hater. it's that simple. he seems however to feel that HIS hate is ok, as it's directed towards 'the bad guy'. but in doing so, he himself becomes that which he hates. i don't hate anyone. too often i have been dismissed (usually due to being a female) so i don't take dismissal from anyone, towards anyone, too lightly. if people want to be disgusted with those who actually commit a crime-go for it. but blanket statements about an entire group, based on the actions of some in that group, imo is wrong, it's distasteful to say the least, and should not be allowed to pass without comment. honu, surely you have dealt with things like this, perhaps not as strongly, in your line of work? i try to put myself in other peoples' shoes, and give benefit of the doubt. there is no way i can say that all muslims should be questioned due to the actions of some. that's just a stereotype-and i thought we fought those things?

[Honu]

Ok Ive been giving your post some thought , I can agree that the people of this faith are going to get lumped in , I can agree that some( most likely a majority of) so called Christains dont really follow the tenements of Christ. I will tell you the only Muslims I have met have been one's in America and I never even thought to not like them , they were just people.
Have you met alot of Muslims in the Middle East ?

[Riot]

Huston Smith wrote a good book, The Religions of Man. Covers the seven major religions. Very easy reading. Very educational. Very cheap on Amazon.

It's a world society, borders become more meaningless every day. Know thy neighbor.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Riot

Huston Smith wrote a good book, The Religions of Man. Covers the seven major religions. Very easy reading. Very educational. Very cheap on Amazon.

It's a world society, borders become more meaningless every day. Know thy neighbor.

Bravo! I think this is the book I read in my freshman year at Marlboro College. It's not that big, so should be easy enough to get through.(I think I only read parts of it, as I was in another world at college that first semester, getting constant bj's, party after party with home grown Afghanistan so abundant you didn't need any money)

I should be ashamed.

[TheSpyder]

You were getting BJ's from Afghanistan's?

Originally Posted by Mike

Bravo! I think this is the book I read in my freshman year at Marlboro College. It's not that big, so should be easy enough to get through.(I think I only read parts of it, as I was in another world at college that first semester, getting constant bj's, party after party with home grown Afghanistan so abundant you didn't need any money)

I should be ashamed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Mike

Bravo! I think this is the book I read in my freshman year at Marlboro College. It's not that big, so should be easy enough to get through.(I think I only read parts of it, as I was in another world at college that first semester, getting constant bj's, party after party with home grown Afghanistan so abundant you didn't need any money)

I should be ashamed.

I'm impressed you remember