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[Cannon Shell]

[quote=SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I don't consider walks to be an important skill stat. It has too much to do with strike-zone size to be that important in voting. For instance, when I see Furcal bunt to the shortstop(or 2nd baseman,) it takes so much more skill than when he simply gets a walk by crouching down to form a tiny strike zone.

With a guy who was a basestealing threat like Raines was a walk can be similar to a double not to mention the havoc that guys like him and Henderson caused while on the basebaths. A walk to a guy like Raines was often more valuable than a single from Boggs or Gwynn.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

[quote=Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

With a guy who was a basestealing threat like Raines was a walk can be similar to a double not to mention the havoc that guys like him and Henderson caused while on the basebaths. A walk to a guy like Raines was often more valuable than a single from Boggs or Gwynn.

If he actually used it(the walk) to then attempt to steal, then I would agree. Must not be that true, because the guy still didn't get more steals than Lou Brock(although you say he had so many more walks that could have easily resulted in steal attempts.) See, there is a lot that goes into whether someone(who can steal) actually attempts to steal when they get on 1st base. Has to do with the manager, the quality of the batters behind you(and in front of you.) If he was able to turn more of the walks he had (way more than Brock) into steals, then he would have a lot more steals than Brock(but he doesn't.) Putting base-stealer types in is kind of like respecting a fetish. We have 2 major ones(Henderson n' Brock,) and I think that's enough. It's like fat chicks, or something like that.

[King Glorious]

[quote=Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

With a guy who was a basestealing threat like Raines was a walk can be similar to a double not to mention the havoc that guys like him and Henderson caused while on the basebaths. A walk to a guy like Raines was often more valuable than a single from Boggs or Gwynn.

Very, very true.