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Old 12-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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Sorry if I missed this in the 90 posts thus far in this thread, but does anyone here actually think Zenyatta would have won the 08 BC Classic had she run in it?
ehh, she would have finished in front of Curlin though....heck even the great Tiago did that. Curlin was not the same horse at the end of the year.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:17 PM
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ehh, she would have finished in front of Curlin though....heck even the great Tiago did that. Curlin was not the same horse at the end of the year.
Let's say for argument's sake she finished ahead of Curlin in the Classic, are we awarding HOY on a 4th place finish in the Classic? Deciding HOY is usually reserved for winning, not for going in the backdoor.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:06 PM
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Let's say for argument's sake she finished ahead of Curlin in the Classic, are we awarding HOY on a 4th place finish in the Classic? Deciding HOY is usually reserved for winning, not for going in the backdoor.
If Ginger Punch wins the Distaff again then Zenyatta wouldnt even have been given the championship if say she finishes third in the classic, let alone win HOY. I dont think that is worth the risk.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:32 PM
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Let's say for argument's sake she finished ahead of Curlin in the Classic, are we awarding HOY on a 4th place finish in the Classic? Deciding HOY is usually reserved for winning, not for going in the backdoor.
i think curlin did enough throughout the year to warrant winning hoy; losing on polyturf shouldn't knock him out of the argument.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:42 PM
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ehh, she would have finished in front of Curlin though....heck even the great Tiago did that. Curlin was not the same horse at the end of the year.
she would have fnished ahead of Champ elyses (sp) but not Curlin
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:55 PM
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she would have fnished ahead of Champ elyses (sp) but not Curlin
so you dont think Zenyatta is as good as Tiago?
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:56 AM
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so you dont think Zenyatta is as good as Tiago?
I think it's hard to make judgements like these, Curlin was ridden to win in the Classic. Albarado probably moved too early and it cost him a few lengths, I seriously doubt they were in it to run for a placing, in the end it really doesn't matter if Zenyatta would have finished 4th or 5th, she would have to have won the Classic to be considered HOY, the argument is silly, it is almost like saying is Curlin as good as Music Note.
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