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Old 12-25-2008, 09:59 PM
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here is how I would look at the race when incorporating sheets

Brother Gold: Circled back to his 'top' (14) off four days rest, pair of the 14 or slight regression most likely
Tony the Terio: 14's routing (see this by the 'bolding' of the number), nothing positive about this one
Collooney County: Has the 14.5 two back but the last two were dreadful
Hidden Price: Has a couple siblings to run around the '10' number (note the Breeding info on the full sheet version) but also had some slow siblings, might be usuable based on that fact alone, in a bad race.
Big Megilla: No idea who Sydney Dutrow is but obviously someone related to Dicky. See the horse as slow unless Sydney has better stuff then Dicky
Saratogian: Slow
Doctor Problum: Slow
Wanna Winna: Has 14's to go back to, Hernandez's number route to sprint are decent
Roadhouse Rock: Another with siblings that were in the '10' area, which would destroy this field, usuable on that fact alone
Living Out a Dream: Has the best number within the race, a pair wins, and a slight regression still wins

This isn't a very powerful sheet race in terms of information.

Give me a couple minutes and I will write up the Sir Beaugamt at Santa Anita, which has some real powerful sheet plays in there, IMO
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:03 PM
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here is how I would look at the race when incorporating sheets

Brother Gold: Circled back to his 'top' (14) off four days rest, pair of the 14 or slight regression most likely
Tony the Terio: 14's routing (see this by the 'bolding' of the number), nothing positive about this one
Collooney County: Has the 14.5 two back but the last two were dreadful
Hidden Price: Has a couple siblings to run around the '10' number (note the Breeding info on the full sheet version) but also had some slow siblings, might be usuable based on that fact alone, in a bad race.
Big Megilla: No idea who Sydney Dutrow is but obviously someone related to Dicky. See the horse as slow unless Sydney has better stuff then Dicky
Saratogian: Slow
Doctor Problum: Slow
Wanna Winna: Has 14's to go back to, Hernandez's number route to sprint are decent
Roadhouse Rock: Another with siblings that were in the '10' area, which would destroy this field, usuable on that fact alone
Living Out a Dream: Has the best number within the race, a pair wins, and a slight regression still wins

This isn't a very powerful sheet race in terms of information.

Give me a couple minutes and I will write up the Sir Beaugamt at Santa Anita, which has some real powerful sheet plays in there, IMO
Thanks Scav, big help!
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:21 PM
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Liberian Fighter: Got back to his top off the minor layoff and ran a new top in his recent allowance race.
Sky Cape: In looking at his patterns, he seems to run in two race sequences, with his best race always first, and his regression 2nd, usuable based on that fact, and play against in his next start if soon after this start
Dakota Phone: His turf numbers don't compete, but his recent numbers show good form and good health as he has a nice developing pattern.
Fifteen Love: First start in the US he paired his top, usually a sign of a horse about to move forward, perfect spacing, a must include
Medjool: Back numbers maybe and Canani is no fool, don't see it here though
Icemancometh: A touch slow on the numbers but has a developing pattern, trainer change something to consider, especially with it being a recent claim and popped right into a stakes race
Young Joe: His Del Mar race three back was real good, but he really reacted off that performance with two bad performances, not this start but maybe the next if he shows his way back to the '2'
Ten Meropa: Horse has obvious issues with the extreme gaps within races, don't see it against this competition
El Gato Malo: Something I consider very strong is the fact that a horse pairs his top off a very long layoff, to me, that shows progression and health. This one has the surface question mark. This one also has a "!" notation after the numbers, which means that TG feels the effort/number is better then it shows, I call them "Sneaky good efforts", don't see why he wouldn't at least run an 'off' effort thus putting him right there.
Ghetto: This horse is exactly why TG's can be very powerful. He would be my key in this race as if you toss his last effort, especially considering all his synethics have been off efforts (He obviously doesn't like it) he had a great improving line, getting to the '-5'. Post postion is obviously against him, but this horse could be there at the end at a huge number.
Pistol Pete Afleet: Seems to be hanging around the "6" area, which won't be good enough, might be a decent 4 year old though
Gio Ponti: Interesting read, if he runs the 2 that he has been running, they are running for 2nd, but that 4.75 he ran last time could be a sign of regression. I would be playing him to pair the 4.75 or even run in the 5.5 range, and then another layoff

In Pick 3's I would be using Ghetto, El Gato Malo, Icemancometh, and Fifteen Love
Exactas I would be playing Ghetto and Fifteen Love over El Gato Malo, Icemancometh, Gio Ponti, Ghetto, Fifteen Love, Sky Cape, Liberian Freighter
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:52 PM
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Thanks, starting to get a feel for this which is a giant improvement for me. Good stuff.

Totally wiped out, long day. Was up all night last night putting a dollhouse together. This Santa stuff is harder than I thought. Hope everyone had as good a day as me. Nothing more fun than kids at Christmas.
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:10 AM
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Liberian Fighter: Got back to his top off the minor layoff and ran a new top in his recent allowance race.
Sky Cape: In looking at his patterns, he seems to run in two race sequences, with his best race always first, and his regression 2nd, usuable based on that fact, and play against in his next start if soon after this start
Dakota Phone: His turf numbers don't compete, but his recent numbers show good form and good health as he has a nice developing pattern.
Fifteen Love: First start in the US he paired his top, usually a sign of a horse about to move forward, perfect spacing, a must include
Medjool: Back numbers maybe and Canani is no fool, don't see it here though
Icemancometh: A touch slow on the numbers but has a developing pattern, trainer change something to consider, especially with it being a recent claim and popped right into a stakes race
Young Joe: His Del Mar race three back was real good, but he really reacted off that performance with two bad performances, not this start but maybe the next if he shows his way back to the '2'
Ten Meropa: Horse has obvious issues with the extreme gaps within races, don't see it against this competition
El Gato Malo: Something I consider very strong is the fact that a horse pairs his top off a very long layoff, to me, that shows progression and health. This one has the surface question mark. This one also has a "!" notation after the numbers, which means that TG feels the effort/number is better then it shows, I call them "Sneaky good efforts", don't see why he wouldn't at least run an 'off' effort thus putting him right there.
Ghetto: This horse is exactly why TG's can be very powerful. He would be my key in this race as if you toss his last effort, especially considering all his synethics have been off efforts (He obviously doesn't like it) he had a great improving line, getting to the '-5'. Post postion is obviously against him, but this horse could be there at the end at a huge number.
Pistol Pete Afleet: Seems to be hanging around the "6" area, which won't be good enough, might be a decent 4 year old though
Gio Ponti: Interesting read, if he runs the 2 that he has been running, they are running for 2nd, but that 4.75 he ran last time could be a sign of regression. I would be playing him to pair the 4.75 or even run in the 5.5 range, and then another layoff

In Pick 3's I would be using Ghetto, El Gato Malo, Icemancometh, and Fifteen Love
Exactas I would be playing Ghetto and Fifteen Love over El Gato Malo, Icemancometh, Gio Ponti, Ghetto, Fifteen Love, Sky Cape, Liberian Freighter
The only thing I would add about Dakota Phone is that his "slow" back turf #'s were very much in line with what he was running on synth at the time. He has since moved forward on the synth, and this will be his first try back on the turf since improving. If he had been running 3's on the main when he ran his 8 on turf, I would be more likely to discount him, but he wasn't.
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:37 AM
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The only thing I would add about Dakota Phone is that his "slow" back turf #'s were very much in line with what he was running on synth at the time. He has since moved forward on the synth, and this will be his first try back on the turf since improving. If he had been running 3's on the main when he ran his 8 on turf, I would be more likely to discount him, but he wasn't.
G,

You've got this 100% correct. Totally agree that he's the right horse at the right price in the "Beaugamt".

Those that love to bash Hollendorfer as a 'move up' guy should note the patience he had with him too... "Just" a $67,000 purchase that took to February of his soph year to get to the gate, Hollendorfer never panicked early on when it was taking 7 tries to break his maiden. He never dropped him into Mdn Clm company. Short on synth, not his thing. Long on synth, better, but still not his best. Then long on grass and paydirt. And now he's a complete horse that looks like he still has upside.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:38 AM
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If any of you TG people want to pick a "race of the day", this week and explain what you see I would be down with that. Thanks for everyone's help!
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:45 AM
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If any of you TG people want to pick a "race of the day", this week and explain what you see I would be down with that. Thanks for everyone's help!
Sheets are a very lazy handicapping method and frankly shouldnt even be considered handicapping. Sheets are a tool that one could use to help the process.Once they become the process they are exposed as the lazy man's cliff notes. Read the book then after you have read it the cheat sheets make more sense!
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:11 AM
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Big Megilla: No idea who Sydney Dutrow is but obviously someone related to Dicky. See the horse as slow unless Sydney has better stuff then Dicky
IMO
FWIW - Sydney Dutrow, aka Chip, is Ricky's younger brother. He works for Rick.
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:44 PM
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FWIW - Sydney Dutrow, aka Chip, is Ricky's younger brother. He works for Rick.
Already? He most recently had been working for Tony and then late last month he decided to go on his own (again). He started out with two horses that Frankel gave him (I think Frankel owned them as well), and had a few more on the way.

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Old 12-26-2008, 05:13 PM
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My info was second, or third hand. You may have more up-to-date info than I do.....
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