Getting a little ridiculous!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

ive seen Texiera play plenty of times but obviously not as many times as you have or as many times as i will see him play this year. Its kind of silly to be going back and forth about defense in regards to first baseman anyway dont you think? Not to say that it isnt important but its more gravy than anything else when a first baseman is actually good with the glove. All of the guys mentioned were good with the glove. Most of the time defense is rep anyway. Hernandez is reputed to be the best ever to play the position but there is really no way to measure it.

Comparing the first six full seasons (that is all texiera has played) Frank Thomas was also better.

Wes Parker is considered the best fielding 1st baseman but I will have to admit I didnt see too much of him. Frank Thomas was a great hitter but was so awful in the field he only played 1st more than 100 games 3 times. He would be considered more of a DH.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wes Parker is considered the best fielding 1st baseman but I will have to admit I didnt see too much of him. Frank Thomas was a great hitter but was so awful in the field he only played 1st more than 100 games 3 times. He would be considered more of a DH.

Not over the first 6 years of his career. During that time, he was the starting all star first baseman twice and selected five times as a first baseman. Yes, he was awful in the field but again...its first base. Thats where they put guys that can hit but cant play defense. His TWO mvps were when he was still playing primarily first base.

His numbers over the first six years of his career Dwarf Texiera's. Add Thomas to Mattingly and Murray.

Todd Helton is compelling. No?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not over the first 6 years of his career. During that time, he was the starting all star first baseman twice and selected five times as a first baseman. Yes, he was awful in the field but again...its first base. Thats where they put guys that can hit but cant play defense. His TWO mvps were when he was still playing primarily first base.

His numbers over the first six years of his career Dwarf Texiera's. Add Thomas to Mattingly and Murray.

Todd Helton is compelling. No?

Thomas was primarily a DH. All star voyes are irrelevant considering Ortiz has been voted as 1st baseman when he almost never plays 1st. And defense does count towards a players standing and Thomas was a really, really bad fielder. Heltons numbers are extremely biased due to Coors but he and texiera are very similar.